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Letters to the Editor Against LRT
Time for a referendum on LRT expenditures and plan, by David Crow
- April, 03, 2013
- Waterloo Chronicle
From the ongoing public anger I have witnessed in the media since the LRT was first approved in 2009, it is glaringly obvious that Waterloo regional council has failed miserably to justify the need to spend $818 million on a transportation system which does not benefit the public at large and will become a millstone around the necks of taxpayers for decades to come.
One has to only examine the parallel experience in Edinburgh, Scotland to realize the enormity of the cost overrun for a similar LRT in a city with a comparable population. The original estimate in 2003 grew rapidly from 375 million pounds to 545 million pounds, then 770 million pounds, to a final figure of 1 billion pounds or $1.7 billion Canadian.
In 2011, massive public anger led to a full scale inquiry. The project was drastically reduced and buses now provide the primary means of transportation.
There is no denying that an LRT is widely regarded politically as a “status symbol,” but it is a status symbol we can ill afford. Almost 50 years ago, in 1967, when Ontario truly was a “place to live and a place to grow,” such innovation may have been feasible.
Today, however, the world continues to suffer from a tenacious global recession and Ontario’s provincial debt has escalated to $272 billion.
Constructing an LRT at this time would amount to fiscal suicide.
Even the Region has finally realized that this project will severely cut into its $300-million budget for overdue road repairs and maintenance.
In the final analysis, it is the taxpayer who will fund this project and it is the taxpayer who should have the final say by means of formal referendum to be placed on the municipal election ballot in 2014.
David A. Crow
Waterloo
LRT boarding numbers off base, by Dave Ramsay
- March, 27, 2013
- Kitchener Post
Re: LRT Project, Waterloo Region
A memo from staff to regional council (1/6/11) justifying its estimate of 56,000 LRT boardings weekdays in 2031 claims “the population used by staff is the urban population which is more representative (than the metro population) of the catchment area served by the LRT.”
It is on this claim that the estimate of boardings, and therefore the need for LRT, is based, and it is absolutely false.
The primary function of LRT systems is to bring people from the suburbs, towns and villages served by LRT into the urban area to work, shop and attend entertainments and return. To exclude all the areas which provide, by far, the bulk of the ridership from the LRT catchment area is absurd. The true catchment area is the metro area which includes all areas served by the LRT, both urban and non-urban.
As a result of this fundamental error the ridership estimates have been grossly exaggerated. The population of KW and Cambridge is expected to grow by almost 40 per cent by 2031. At present the iXpress bus service attracts 10,000 boarders weekdays, so an increase of 80 per cent to 18,000 for LRT boarding’s by 2031 is far more reasonable than the 56,000 currently projected.
In a submission to the federal government dated 15/11/05, the region’s estimate of the boardings was 31,000 by 2041. Some time after that the boarding estimate jumped from 31,000 in 30 years to 56,000 in 20 years. Why?
Council has ignored this warning before, just as it has ignored all warnings in the past and has made it clear that it will continue to do so in the future. “The train has left the station.” (“The Titanic has left the dock” is more appropriate.)
However, the provincial government might still be convinced the project should be stopped or delayed and withdraw its $300 million contribution as a waste of taxpayers’ money. Worth a try?
If the 83 per cent of the people the Ipsos Reid poll showed wanted a referendum on LRT were to let the province know (through the Hon. Glen Murray, MPP, Minister of Infrastructure and Transport) they wanted the project stopped and the reasons why, it might pay attention and act.
How to let the provincial government know? Use email, snail mail, submissions supported by signatures gathered by door-to-door and street corner canvassing, form a delegation and ask for a hearing, or phone.
The important thing is to act, and act quickly, before council can waste any more tax dollars on this foolhardy venture.
D.C. Ramsay
Waterloo
LRT will raise taxes, by John Shortreed
- March 11, 2013
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: A pedestrian’s plight in car-centric Waterloo Region — Feb. 23; We need to boost road-usage fees — Feb. 23
The Saturday, Feb. 23 Record has several comments about the light rail transit system that contradict the region’s information. Who to believe?
The new provincial transport minister, Glen Murray, sees the light rail system as “a visionary tool to help expand the tax base,” but the region has said there will be a tax increase of 12.5 per cent, not a tax decrease. Also, the minister’s staff, according to documents obtained by The Record’s research, found it difficult to find any justification for the project.
Columnist Luisa D’Amato says the LRT “encourages people to ditch their cars and use transit” because it will be more convenient, but the region’s reports say that transit trips in 2013 will, like today, take twice the time as a trip by car, and the region has designed the transit stops, relative to the iXpress stops, so they are less convenient for the three malls, the two downtowns, Lakeshore Village, Wilfrid Laurier University, and the Technology Park.
Moreover, the light rail streetcars being ordered by the region will, at capacity, have two-thirds standing versus half standing for the existing iXpress buses.
Letter writer Michael Frind “sees annual subsidy amounting to thousands of dollars for each car in daily use,” while the region’s plan for spending about $5 billion on transportation over the next 20 years is to spend more on the transit system used now by five per cent of the people than on the road system used by 90 per cent.
It seems like road users will be subsidizing transit, the system Frind would have us switch to.
I believe the region: that the light rail system will raise taxes, be less comfortable and convenient than iXpress, and that road users will increase their subsidy to transit.
I am not so sure I believe the region’s forecasts that people in Waterloo by 2031 will use transit more per person than in Vancouver (15 per cent versus 14 per cent) and that by 2031, families will prefer to live in downtown apartments than in less expensive suburban townhouses with backyards, so we need less new land for housing. There, I believe the Ontario Municipal Board.
John Shortreed
Waterloo
LRT will bankrupt us, by Rob Stephens
- February 22, 2013
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: LRT will be family-friendly, accessible — Feb. 15
The writer of this letter stated that she and her family lived in Italy and used the public transit to get her and her family from point A to point B.
Italy is bankrupt, just like Waterloo Region will be after building the light rail transit system.
The true costs of the project will be made clear as the project progresses. Already we are finding out the cost of borrowing the $265 million will cost us $227 million (that is higher interest than the RIM Park fiasco). so we are over budget before we start.
This project’s costs will escalate to the point of bankruptcy sooner than later. Weber Street will cost us another $50 million-plus, which should be part of the LRT costs only due to the fact is that if we didn’t build the LRT we wouldn’t have to rebuild Weber Street.
Once it is built, the costs will just keep rising and the ridership will not, while draining money from other services (they have already started redirecting money from essential services).
Rob Stephens
Kitchener
LRT a money pit, by Charles Burkholder
- February 22, 2013
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
There has been much discussion lately regarding Waterloo Region’s coming light rail transit system.
The following information is taken from the 2008 National Geographic World Atlas will show one and all why LRT systems are financially viable in more densely populated countries and cities.
Ontario: area 1,760,395 sq. km; population 12,238,300.
Germany, France, Great Britain, Japan and Italy: area 1,457,085 sq. km; population 384,665,000.
It should also be noted that the population of Tokyo alone is 35,327,000 — virtually the same as all of Canada.
The city of Rome has a population of 2,628,000 people paying for its system.
I personally feel that the 750,000 people (the projected growth over the next 15 or 20 years of Waterloo Region) means this system will wind up being a convenience for the few at the expense of the many. To that end, I propose that we call this proposed system the Money Pit.
Charles Burkholder
Kitchener
Reopen discussion, by Peter Tschoepe
- February 15, 2013
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Residents of Waterloo Region, myself included, are normally not quickly inclined to express their opinions through submissions to The Record.
It usually takes a critical issue to arouse enough interest to get people to make their views known. The light rail transit system certainly falls into that category.
The sheer volume of submissions from letter writers to date expressing outrage, anger and frustration indicates the opposition to this project.
This project is wrong all around. it was not executed through a democratic process. Waterloo regional council rejected a call for a referendum. Costs will most likely pass the $1-billion mark; taxes will definitely go up; money for crumbling roads and related infrastructure, fire, police and social services will be cut, and these are the essentials.
We need to improve our transportation system, one that serves the majority of our community. We don’t need the LRT.
Is there anyone who has the courage, stamina, energy and organizational talent to start a process to reopen the discussion on this issue to allow the residents of Waterloo Region to determine the fate of LRT?
Peter Tschoepe
Waterloo
A feeling of betrayal, by Tammi Eggen
- February 15, 2013
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Rail transit was never up to the public — Feb. 9
I want to thank Jeff Outhit for this column. I believe, as he does, that rail transit was a done deal right from the beginning.
It has been a huge frustration to me to watch this whole plan (plot) unfold. The meetings for public input were, I think, a sham. The powers that be only wanted your input if you agreed with their “vision.”
At the last municipal election, I had two criteria for a candidate to get my vote. One was they were against more roundabouts, another lost cause, and more importantly they had to say they were against light rail transit. I was pleased when so many candidates who said this were voted in. I was angry, and felt betrayed when they almost all went back on their word once elected.
There is no doubt we need better transit in this region, but rail transit is not going to accomplish this. Those of us in the suburbs will still have the same, crappy service we have now. As Outhit said, nothing can be done about it now.
Tammi Eggen
Kitchener
===Shiny, trendy thingy, by Charles Crockford---
- February 15, 2013
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
While I realize the construction of our light rail transit system (a.k.a. God’s Gift to Transportation) will enable me to achieve my lifelong dream of being able to ride a shiny, trendy thingy from one shopping centre to another, I would like to poke some holes in some of the arguments that have been put forth in favour of the aforementioned abomination.
The argument has been made that in order to attract students to our institutes of higher learning, an LRT system is an absolute must. I have had 11 years of university training, and in those 11 years a consideration of the means of transportation to a university was so far down the list of what I considered when choosing one it wasn’t even on it.
Furthermore, having taught high school in a previous life, I cannot imagine a guidance counsellor telling a student to go to a certain university because it was served by a shiny, trendy thingy.
It has also been suggested that we will not attract the brightest minds to our area if these people are forced to ride on buses rather than LRT cars. In other words, these bright minds would take a job they did not want, and which paid less, just so they could ride a shiny, trendy thingy to work. Yeah, right.
I am well aware the young trendies who foolishly favour our upcoming folly will suggest I should get with it and join the 21st century; to them I would reply, “Get real.”
Charles Crockford
Waterloo
LRT stands for ‘Let’s Raise Taxes’, by Brian Sklar
- April 18, 2012
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light Rail Transit
The general trend of the letters for those supporting the Let’s Raise Taxes (LRT) project is that this is going to gain us increased recognition in the world and further our reputation as the world’s most intelligent city.
What are these people smoking? Since when is it a sign of intelligence to commit what will likely be well over one billion tax dollars to construct a very limited transit system (not to mention the millions of dollars it will take to maintain and keep the system upgraded on an ongoing basis)? It will provide transportation to less than five per cent of the population while providing no benefit whatsoever to the remaining 95 per cent. Add the fact that most of the region’s outlying communities (New Hamburg, New Dundee, Baden, etc.) are without any Grand River Transit service at all and it just further compounds the stupidity of the Let’s Raise Taxes project. Why not provide bus service to all those other communities, rather than commit huge tax dollars to provide an unneeded upgrade to a bus service that is already there?
Further, even the most optimistic supporters of the Let’s Raise Taxes project realize that it will never pay for itself — it will always be operating at a loss and the losses will even be greater than the present system because of the higher maintenance and upgrading costs associated with the system.
To me, it just doesn’t add up.
Brian Sklar
Waterloo
Values will drop, by John Shortreed
- November 21, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: The right route for light rail - Nov. 10
In regard to the Waterloo Region Record's editorial on the revised light-rail plan for Waterloo, it was said the value of houses on Caroline Street will rise because of the light rail system.
This is nonsense and wrong headed. Ask any realtor the impact on property values if adding a train track with a 200-foot train every seven-and-a-half minutes, from 5:30 a.m. to 1:30 a.m., 35 feet from their living room and bedroom, with a 90-degree turn with 16 steel wheels on steel rails that screech when the automatic oilers fail to function and their street is dead-ended and their visitor parking is cut in half. The answer is obvious. Their property values will go down as their quality of life is reduced by the intrusion.
The Record could have consulted the studies that show both the increase in property values at bus or rail rapid transit stations, but also show the decrease in property values for properties adjacent to the tracks between stations. While the region and The Record like to believe that property values will increase at nearby stations, they ignore the findings by the same studies that properties along the tracks, not at stations, will see a decline in property values.
The whole "consultation" on the light rail route in Waterloo was a sham. The information from the 120 people that attended Knox Church in good faith would be surprised to know that after their input was summarized in 10 pages of comments, it had no further part in the route selection. Their opinions were not even used in the selection of the route. This is absolutely clear to anyone who actually read the region's uptown light rail route report. The consultation results were not used.
John Shortreed
Waterloo
Forced upon us, by Ellen Shields
- June 17, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Over the past six months, urban ransit has been a very divisive issue in Waterloo Region.
Unfortunately, regional council has not handled the situation well. Over several years, regional council came up with a transit plan, light rail transit, and seemed to assume that if they but explained the plan, the public would embrace it. That’s not how things developed. Some people became strong supporters, but many others became strong opponents, for a variety of reasons, including the fact that council acted as though light rail transit or rapid buses were the only viable options.
When the people who had serious reservations about council’s favoured plan called for a referendum on the light rail transit proposal, its supporters were strongly opposed. For some reason, the thought that such an important issue, one that council members themselves have said is the most important issue ever to face regional council, should be decided by the voters seemed to terrify the pro-light rail party.
We were told that a referendum would be a dreadful mistake because the majority of voters were uninformed or misinformed and, in addition, the whole proposal was too complex for most voters to understand. Instead, we should rely on the wisdom of our elected councillors.
Listening to these descriptions of the average voter, I could only wonder who had elected these wise councillors. Regional council feels that it has consulted with the public at large, but it hasn’t. We all know that the “consultation” was a mere formality. The only real threat was that of a referendum, and council quickly took care of that threat.
If there had been a referendum and if the voters had voted in favour of light rail, I would have happily accepted the results. The voters would have voted to transform their region in a certain way. Without a referendum, however, I feel that a transformation has been imposed on us by a small group of nine people, three of whom were elected by constituents who do not live in the cities that will be directly affected by light rail, and who will not be forced to pay for it.
Ellen Shields
Waterloo
Taxes will rise, by John McAllister
- June 17, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
In the pirited debate regarding the light rail proposal, one aspect that did not get proper recognition was the projected tax increases. Few, if any, projects of any size that are “managed” by civic employees ever come in on budget.
Waterloo ran 65 per cent over budget on a simple skateboard park, and then had the gall to rejoice that it was below the 88 per cent over budget per the last guesstimate. Performance like that in a fixed-price, private sector contract would be grounds for rightful dismissal.
Light rail costs do not include the $30-plus million for Kitchener’s part of road preparations. This will end up in one way or another on our tax bills.
A 25 per cent overrun is a given. Just think what the region’s managers can do on a massive, complex and ill-conceived project such as this.
If we were to bump the end-costs to 50 per cent over the current budget, that would be a more likely outcome. Is light rail really worth this much taxation?
John McAllister
Kitchener
Flawed arguments, by Paul Schmidt
- June 17, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I am not sure that light rail transit will be a good long-term idea.
I am sure, however, that those faithful believers who have urged it upon us as if it were a twin-railed transport to the Promised Land, do so with some seriously flawed arguments.
I have read letters likening it to the Conestoga Parkway or the Centre in the Square — and we are told to see how great these projects were, once we learned to accept them.
We didn’t want to pay for the parkway, but we all had cars, so if we were going to have to pay we might as well use it. With light rail just the opposite will happen. We will be forced to pay for it but, since we all still have cars, we will not use it any time soon.
Before the Centre in the Square was built, we didn’t have a referendum, but rather a survey was taken. It showed that a majority of citizens opposed the project — but if it had to be built it should at least include a tourist centre/hotel to help pay for itself. We had the centre shoved down our throats, but without the hotel complex attached, and the thing still costs us about $1.3 million a year in operating costs to keep.
Paul H. Smith
Kitchener
Don’t cut through Waterloo Park, by Heidy Schmidt
- Jun 14, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
I have never been in favour of LRT.
My biggest concerns are emergencies and the limited flexibility these trains offer.
I am also concerned about the costs of technological up-grades.
Like personal computers, they constantly need upgrading.
The taxes that are being proposed will never end. Please stop treating us like uneducated, uninformed citizens.
Mayor Halloran understands the importance of this decision with her motion for a referendum. That it was defeated, tells me that regional councillors are afraid that the majority of the people would vote against LRT.
That means seven of these councillors including Waterloo’s representatives, Couns. Sean Strickland and Jane Mitchell, are in favour of disrupting the downtown economy, increasing taxes on citizens that will have no benefits from this system and without knowing the bottom line.
I have been taking the buses for a year now and the service is excellent.
It only takes an hour, using one bus, to go from my house to Conestoga Mall then off to Fairview.
By car and taking the Expressway, it takes no time at all.
If anything, the GRT should have smaller buses during low ridership.
Going through the park as Sean Strickland is suggesting is asinine.
If people want to get from point A to point B, they don’t want to go through the park.
Leave our parks alone.
Heidy Schmidt
Waterloo
Taxpayers being denied their say, by David Crow
- Jun 14, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
As a longtime resident of both Kitchener and Waterloo, I view the $818 million LRT proposal with a great deal of concern.
From the many articles I have read, it is clear the majority of people in Waterloo do not support the costly and disruptive undertaking.
Mayor Brenda Halloran deserves great credit for trying to convince Waterloo Regional Council that a public referendum should be allowed.
The fact that her motion was defeated by a vote of 7-3 reveals the same elitist attitude which prevailed when the proponents of amalgamation were similarly opposed to any public input into the final decision.
It is interesting to note that Switzerland, one of the most advanced countries in the world, has used public referendum for over 200 years as an integral part of its system of governments.
It is called “participatory democracy” and we would do well to emulate this system in Ontario.
Ultimately, it is the taxpayers who will pay for the LRT and it is the taxpayers who are being denied any say in the final decision.
This is totally unacceptable.
David A. Crow
Waterloo
Make it accessible, by John Petersen
- June 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Waterloo regional council has its priorities reversed. A grid system of transit lines should be laid out in such a way that any home would be less than 10 minutes walk from nearest transit stop, with less than 10 minutes waiting time, and at the other end, less than a 10-minute walk to the final destination.
When this system is up and running, and everyone can get to a rapid transit stop without their cars, then it is time to discuss what kind of rapid transit system to build.
John Petersen
Kitchener
Doesn’t work for me, by D. Susan Bailey
- June 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Our family has followed the debate over light rail transit with great interest and trepidation. We feel this will be a bottomless pit of cost, with no discernible benefit to us.
I have no problem in exploring alternate methods of travel. However, the route described, joining two malls through downtown Waterloo and Kitchener makes no sense.
I live in Forest Heights and work near the expressway and Courtland Avenue, and I need to travel to outside meetings as well. I take my bicycle whenever possible, but it isn’t always. If I drive to work, it takes eight minutes. If I got on a city bus to take me to King Street in Kitchener to catch the light rail train, and then have to walk several blocks to get to work, I will have to spend much, much more time getting to work. The same goes for travelling to Fairview Park mall. I can drive there in 11 minutes.
So I will end up paying for the light rail transit, without any benefit to me.
It seems to me that part of this planned route is meant to once again “revitalize” the downtowns of this community. We need to stop doing CPR on downtown areas and treat them just as we do any other area in the cities — as discrete neighbourhoods which will develop their own personalities and sustainability. And let’s not forget that we already have iXpress buses travelling much the same route already.
I challenge those who are crying, “We must do it right this minute!” to get back to the drawing board with a solid plan to help me replace my car with a transit pass that gets me wherever I need to go in a timely fashion. As it stands, even if I use light rail, I still have to pay my car insurance and other related costs. So there’s not much attractive in this proposal for those who will be stuck paying for it.
D. Susan Bailey
Kitchener
We need opposition, by Eileen Zarnke
- June 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
When Waterloo Mayor Brenda Halloran became a new member of regional council she probably went along with the plans for light rail. When the pros and cons regarding light rail became the hot topic of the electorate she reconsidered her initial inclination and suggested a referendum. She has been criticized for changing her mind. If councillors are not allowed to change their minds they are being bullied. A leader is not necessarily a “yes” man or woman. It takes guts to be a leader who says “no.” Governments need “leaders in opposition.” They are like the reins on a horse that prevent it from running uncontrolled.
I am a low-income senior citizen and I can no longer use any kind of public transportation. But that does not mean that I don’t have to help pay for it. And there are more people, young and old, who are in the same situation. We need a Robin Hood. Things haven’t changed much since that mythical time.
Eileen Zarnke
Waterloo
I want a referendum, by Wanda Hoffman
- June 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
As the largest expenditure in history for the region, I should have a say as to whether or not I want light rail transit. Everyone should have a say.
One has to wonder why the referendum was voted down. Why am I, a taxpayer, having this expensive proposition shoved down my throat? Why is this being pushed through like this? What is it the region is afraid of?
Certainly, we have elected councillors, but that does not give them carte blanche to spend this amount of money without a taxpayers’ vote. This is a big decision. As the disaster at RIM Park showed, it can become an extremely costly venture. I strongly resent regional council spending taxpayer dollars (that we don’t even have yet) without our input on a referendum.
They didn’t want to put fluoride to the vote either, and surprise, look what happened.
I urge all councillors to think carefully — because it may be your last term if you push this through. I predict budgets way out of control on this project. It will probably be the biggest embarrassment of the decade.
Wanda Hoffman
Waterloo
Buses are just fine, by Ingrid Fohry
- June 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I have never been in favour of light rail transit. My biggest concerns are emergencies, limited flexibility, the costs of technological upgrades, and the route. The taxes that are being proposed will never end. Please stop treating us like uneducated, uninformed citizens.
To lead Waterloo Region takes more than just being elected. Recognizing conflicts of interest at the 11th-hour reflects poorly on the officials. The public’s outcry identifies the problems with how some council members are trying to promote such a defective proposal. As leaders they have failed considerably.
Downtown Kitchener has been serviced by buses for over 50 years. There is ample parking, residential developments and businesses. The millions of dollars spent for infrastructural changes have not been able to revitalize the core, considering stores are still closing. Light rail will not bring customers and new businesses to the downtown core, when it will provide a 39 minute ride from Conestoga Mall to Fairview Park mall
I have been taking the buses for a year now, and the service is excellent. If anything, have smaller buses during low ridership.
Ingrid Fohry
Waterloo
Gridlock will continue, by Jack Connell
- June 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
There is nothing in the proposals for light rail transit that changes the traffic gridlock that occurs on a daily basis on other roads and streets. With the light rail system there is no flexibility to change routes quickly.
With the light rail system controlling the traffic lights on the cross streets, I fear emergency vehicles will no longer be able to clear vehicle traffic ahead of them because the street cars have control over the cross street traffic lights.
If light rail is such a lucrative enterprise then let’s let private enterprise bring forward some proposals as to costs and construction scheduling.
Jack Connell
Cambridge
Madcap scheme, by Nancy Chadwick
- June 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Build light rail in this region — June 11
This editorial, like all other projections on the light rail transit option, was full of obfuscation, assumptions, futuristic fantasy and unproven assertions.
Shame on The Record for not seeing this plan for the madcap scheme that it is.
In future, I suggest that Waterloo regional planners take note of mothers.
I think the planners should be aware that many women running errands for their families would have trouble using the light rail system to do this.
If the planners want to change society, they could start here, and not spend any more of our money on meaningless “consultations.”
Nancy Chadwick
Waterloo
Late in the game, by Frank Mader
- June 11, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: No accountability — June 3
Regarding the transit debate, the process used in choosing a system seems strangely flawed. The strongest proponents, those who knew the planned route from the earliest stages possible, have had to recuse themselves from the vote because of conflicts of interest. But this comes only very late in the game after having used the considerable resources of their bully pulpits to tout the great need for this questionable project.
In his June 3 letter to the editor, Peter Woolstencroft was critical of the fact that three of the region’s township mayors, whose constituents will pay not a dime toward the project, have votes in the decision.
It is no wonder that the proponents of a light rail transit system do not want a referendum.
Frank Mader
Kitchener
Questionable route, by Al Hecht
- June 11, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Having taught urban geography for some 30-plus years at a local university, I find the location of the light rail proposal very, very puzzling.
Public transport modes of all kind need to go from where people live to were they work or do business. Where light rail has been successful, as in Calgary, it brings people from the suburbs to the city’s central business district in the morning and back in the evening. In our case, unless it has changed, it is to go from Waterloo’s Conestoga shopping centre to Waterloo’s urban core and on to Kitchener’s central business district and on to another shopping centre, the Fairview Park mall. It misses the rider demand origin: the suburbs.
Location is everything in cities. Unless this is being kept in mind in its construction, light rail will fail in the Kitchener-Waterloo area.
Al Hecht
Waterloo
Less disruptive route, by Ron Hackett
- June 10, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: On with the transit vote — June 2
There is a 12th option for light rail transit that has never been presented to the public. It addresses most of the valid and interesting arguments of opponents regarding the colossal waste of money, needless disruption and added congestion to the downtowns of Kitchener and Waterloo by putting trains on already narrow roads.
Utilizing upgraded rail corridors from the farmers’ market in Woolwich Township down to the Delta in Cambridge would take riders into the core areas of Waterloo, Kitchener and Cambridge. Individual express busses dispatched to each individual stop could eliminate the need to rip up 2.5 kilometres of road in Waterloo and 3.5 kilometres of road in Kitchener for only five stops. High speed trains could operate in the rail corridors augmented by an effective feeder bus system at half the cost and much less disruption to traffic, streets and neighbourhoods.
Ron Hackett
Wallenstein
A traffic impediment, by Andre Mongeon
- June 10, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Projects such as the proposed light rail transit line never come in on budget. Contributions by the other levels of government are fixed, but any overruns will be our responsibility. Expect this project to cost more, a lot more. It will be brought to you by the same kind of people who brought you another white elephant, the Kitchener farmers’ market.
In exchange for this huge and ongoing expenditure, the main benefit of light rail transit will be giving perhaps a few thousand people a couple of extra minutes to comb their hair and brush their teeth.
The people who continue to drive will be encumbered by a trolley. Anyone who has driven in central Toronto can attest to how a trolley can impede traffic.
Just how rapid can it be on a city street where it will have to obey the same speed limits as any other vehicle? It can’t go 80 km/h down King Street, and it has to stop frequently anyway, just like a bus.
Andre Mongeon
Kitchener
We want our say, by Beth McCosh
- June 10, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
We, the taxpayers, have been denied our vote on the proposed light rail transit by regional council.
Four regional councillors, including our regional chairman, have declared themselves to be in a conflict of interest; three regional councillors represent regional residents who will not have their taxes increased (and they should not be voting); and one regional councillor may not be voting due to an unfortunate accident — so in theory that leaves eight regional councillors to decide on constructing a this billion dollar folly trolley. Don’t we, the taxpayers of this great Region of Waterloo, deserve better?
Beth McCosh
Waterloo
Questionable reasoning, by Ron Ward
- June 10, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
As I understand the light rail transit situation, we are about to be committed to a massive long-term debt to finance the very optimistic cost, user and population growth estimates for a system that saves little or no commuting time, offers no other incentive to reduce car traffic, takes lanes from existing traffic, disrupts public access and appeal of city cores and can never be adjusted for inevitable traffic pattern changes.
Ironically, its very convenience encourages suburban growth. Tragically, it adds major taxes to already hurting fixed and lower income residents.
Incredibly, council must also be ignoring the clear signs of imminent U.S. economic collapse and dramatically increased credit costs ahead. The very real threats to Toyota and RIM or the jobs that an ever stronger Canadian dollar takes mustn’t concern them either.
Apparently nothing is more important than serving a delusion that the light rail transit will attract hi-tech residents and be more convenient for our temporary residents who pay little or no taxes before they leave the bill to all those who don’t want or need it. The only benefit seems to be a one time gift horse of our own money from our other taxers in return for generations of risk and debt.
Nothing else makes sense to most of us and every council member got elected knowing that. Unless they convince us otherwise in the next few days, they are politically dead.
Ron Ward
Waterloo
Opt out of LRT as solution to growth, by Dick Tyssen
- Jun 08, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
I’m not against rapid transit, nor am I against LRT — for other communities.
What I am against is LRT for Waterloo Region.
Number one, it’s far from cutting- edge technology, in fact it might well be completely obsolete before construction is complete.
Number two, its route will completely destroy the ambiance of Uptown Waterloo and Waterloo Park.
But, my real concern is that a vastly reduced number of regional politicians have before them a plan to vote on one and one only ill thought- out and flawed proposal, that is to spend taxpayers’ dollars on a potential white elephant, one which will most surely rival the Rim Park fiasco.
Regional council, in its reduced form, is intent on showing us what true leadership means.
I challenge Waterloo council to protect its citizens and its landscape and to opt out of participation in this one and only solution to a perceived increase in population.
T.G. (Dick) Tyssen
Waterloo
Hard to make work, by Paul Zacharias
- June 8, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
There must be about 40 streets intersecting King Street between the two malls. I’m assuming there will be safety guard rails on both sides of these 40 intersections which will be activated when the trains go by every eight to 10 minutes. If there is a station at King and Victoria strteets, or King and Queen streets, with passengers getting on and off, I can picture the traffic backing up during rush hours.
And what happens emergency vehicles are caught up in the jam?
My sense is that the projected light rail transit ridership is somewhat inflated. Where are all these new passengers coming from? Certainly, people living within a few blocks of the rails will find it convenient, but not the people living in Kitchener’s outlying areas.
Some proponents of light rail cite Portland, Oregon, as a good example. I lived in Portland for five years and in several significant ways our two cities are quite different.
Many financial experts say most of Europe and North America are on the verge of a second-dip recession, which could be at least as deep as and probably longer than the first dip. How would that affect the funding of the LRT project?
I agree, mainly for health reasons, that a bus rapid transit system isn’t an ideal solution either. Sometimes we have to choose between two not very good choices, and in this case I would vote for the bus system. Looking at the larger picture, things like more bike lanes, encouraging carpooling, and especially adopting a simpler life style would certainly improve the overall situation.
Paul Zacharias
Kitchener
Unfair to Cambridge, by Brad McEwen
- June 7, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The debate goes on and on, but I, for one, agree with the suggestion that a visionary public transportation system is going to become a necessity in this region.
What I most vehemently disagree with is that the people of Cambridge will have to help pay for the light rail system and we will get nothing for our money!
The second largest city in this region will get rapid buses. Well, we already have rapid buses. If anyone has ever been a passenger on one of these buses during rush hour from Fairview Park mall, they will know that, without dedicated lanes, these buses will still get snarled up in traffic jams.
Regional council will undoubtedly vote to proceed with the proposal that they have favoured all along, making the public consultations all a show. Cambridge will get mistreated once again, as so often happens with this level of government.
It’s time that Cambridge city council withheld its regional taxes to protest. It’s time once again to consider becoming a separate municipality entirely.
Brad McEwen
Cambridge
Only for show, by Robert Adams
- June 7, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I can’t believe that the politicians in this area are so pompous that even in the face of Ipsos Reid poll indicating 80 per cent in favour of a referendum on the light rail transit system, that they have said they are the elected officials and therefore will decide. They are there to work for the wishes of their constituents and as such should be held accountable.
I believe that everyone of them who has voted against a referendum should lose his or her seat in office. I already sense the same done deal as the women’s prison happening. Yes they held public meetings, but only for show.
Robert Adams
Kitchener
Undetermined costs, by Peter Pople Sr.
- June 4, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
It’s difficult to do a cost-benefit analysis of the light rail project because the regional taxpayers will pay only a small part of the initial cost, while the provincial and federal governments will be picking up the rest. Locally, we will have higher taxes, traffic congestion, cost overruns, construction delays, and then the unforeseen operational costs.
If we had not neglected our road system for 25 years, would we even be considering light rail?
This project might be called “the mall connection,” but few will want to lug home groceries and Christmas packages on the bus-train combo. If built, it will be added to the questionable benefits of our so called “international airport.”
The recent municipal election was a farce with no viable alternatives to some senior sitting candidates. No wonder 69 per cent of voters refused to participate, as was their right, so nobody in government should claim to have a mandate from the people.
I do not believe this is an effective use of taxpayer money, but I’m sure nobody wants to return the cash to our heavily indebted senior governments. So sit back and enjoy the unintended consequences of this highly questionable project if it proceeds.
Peter Pople Sr.
Kitchener
Consider trams, by Tad Pecak
- June 4, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Regional councillors vote against taking transit decision to public ballot — June 2
So, there will be no referendum. It must be admitted though, that questions in a referendum could also be manipulated by vested interests. I do believe, however, that councillors should remember who put them there. In major projects such as this, they should consult their constituents and have enough guts to express majority view.
However, since for various reasons we are heading for some improved transit, the councillors should seriously consider trams. Trams are electrically run buses with overhead power lines. They have been successfully used elsewhere. There would be no concern about gasoline cost, pollution (noise or fumes) and no need to disrupt and inconvenience the public with messy construction.
As well, the time of construction and costs to us taxpayers should be nowhere near as high. Another advantage is that they can easily be branched off into subdivisions from some focal centres.
Tad Pecak
Kitchener
Make transit convenient, by Tammi Eggen
- June 4, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The main reason people do not use public transit is that it is not convenient.
We live in Forest Heights and have a daughter who attends Conestoga College at Doon. In order to get to her class on time she must be at the bus stop one hour and 15 minutes before class time. If I drive her it takes 20 minutes, which can include a trip through the drive-thru for coffee.
If my daughters want to go to Fairview Park mall it takes 30 minutes by transit, or 10 minutes by car. If they want to go to Conestoga Mall it takes 45 minutes on a good day by bus, and 15 or 20 minutes by car.
My question to the councillors making the decision about light rail transit is this: Will going ahead with light rail change that?
I wonder how many councillors actually use transit on a regular basis, and how many plan on using it if and when the light rail transit system is built?
Just because we build it that doesn’t mean people will use it, if it’s not convenient.
Tammi Eggen
Kitchener
An outdated system, by Robert Milne
- June 3, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I think calling a 19th-century transportation system “light rail” instead of what it is — a street car system — is preposterous. This system was scrapped years ago, and deservedly so, because it is so outdated. Why the enthusiasm to waste a lot of money on a system that is old, passé and out of date?
In short, I think the promoters of the street cars (read “light rail”) are nuts.
Robert Milne
Kitchener
Councillors should listen to constituents, by Lloyd Mundy
- May 31, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we the taxpayers had a council that would represent us?
We recently spent time in London, a city with a population that exceeds Kitchener and Waterloo’s combined.
They do not have a Conestoga Parkway. They are not embracing a rapid transit system.
If council makes another major blunder and substantially increases our taxes, they should not worry about future expansion in that residential buyers would avoid this area with a passion, owning to residential taxes.
Lloyd Mundy
Waterloo
Improve other transit before laying tracks, by M. Carl Kaufman
- May 31, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
I am opposed to light rail trainst, but not to improved transportation.
The cost of LRT is unreasonable.
It will cost a lot more than the current estimate. That is not fair to the taxpayers, who are overburdened already.
Regional government must be fiscally responsible. It was elected to represent the people and to protect them against the designs of the bureaucrats. To build LRT, the whole downtown of Kitchener and Waterloo, Waterloo Park and the university campus will have to be chopped up.
Let’s start by adding a few more bus routes and some smaller buses.
If the tracks are really necessary, they can be laid the next time Kitchener tears up King Street!
E-mail your councillors. Their email addresses can be found on Region of Waterloo’s website. Some of them just might hope to be reelected.
M. Carl Kaufman
Waterloo
We’re overtaxed, by Thomas Thompson
- May 31, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit referendum pitched — May 19
We have been taxed to death since Carl Zehr became Kitchener’s mayor.
It is unfortunate he has had a free ride for so long with no competition for that position. It is now to the point that he says he was appointed to do as he wishes in regard to light rail transit, and that is approve it without taxpayers input. We are taxed beyond what we as seniors and other homeowners can now afford, but he seems to think there is a bottomless pit of money in our pockets.
I do hope the reps from Waterloo and Cambridge force a referendum so that we the taxpayers can be heard. Why go back to what was removed 50 years ago?
Thomas Thompson
Kitchener
It could get costly, by Bill Gibson
- May 27, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I am concerned about the proposed light rail transit project, budgeted for around $ 800 million. Unfortunately, we see many budget overruns, in particular with government projects. If we allow for an increase in the budget of, say, only 30 per cent over the lifetime of the project this takes the new cost to $1.04 billion.
Of this new cost, the portion from the federal and provincial governments would still be the same, around $565 million, leaving the region to come up with a balance of $475 million, almost twice the current estimate — certainly more than I am willing to pay.
I think this is definitely a case where a plebiscite or referendum should be considered.
Bill Gibson
Waterloo
She speaks for us, by Alex Serwaczek
- May 26, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit referendum pitched — May 19
Ever since Cambridge Mayor Doug Craig withdrew from the light rail transit debate, the majority of local residents who oppose light rail have had no one on Waterloo regional council standing up for their interests — until Waterloo Mayor Brenda Halloran stood up last week and called for a referendum.
It has been clear for some time that light rail is being propelled by powerful interests and regional minions whose skins are not on the line. The region’s ridership estimates are so high they’re a joke, but if they are proven wrong then not only would we have far higher operating costs for light rail than predicted, but we would also still need all the road expansion that the region claims to be trying to avoid. There is a lot more at stake here than is pointed out in a Record editorial espousing regional councillors to do their job in the absence of a referendum.
A referendum would give a chance to have a real public debate — not shoddy “public forums” aimed at hoodwinking us. This decision is too big to make in the current climate. Three cheers and a nod to Halloran for taking a stance and doing her job correctly.
Alex Serwaczek
Kitchener
Let the citizens be heard on transit, by Rosemary Pell
- May 26, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit referendum pitched — May 19
Interesting: a suggestion that might truly allow citizen voices to be heard.
From my experience at the open forums and other input mechanisms over the past few years, citizen voices do not seem to make an impact if they are not supportive of light rail. Concerns certainly did not appear to be considered in the limited options put forward by Waterloo Region staff. Mayor Carl Zehr and The Record oppose the referendum idea, saying it is up to politicians elected last October to decide and, as a representative democracy these politicians are charged with making a decision.
Unfortunately, due to conflicts of interest on financial matters related to the transit route, four of the 16 representatives cannot vote on this issue.
I wonder why they did not declare their conflict during the last term of council or, at the very least, before the election. That information may have led to a very different elected council. This means only 12 of those elected can vote, and only nine who are voting represent the three communities that will pay for and be directly affected by the transit decision. As this is such a crucial decision on many levels, perhaps a different mechanism such as a referendum is needed to guide the decision-makers, despite the complexity of that process.
Rosemary Pell
Kitchener
LRT debate has been biased and botched, by Scott J. Abrams
- May 17, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
Is it too much of a bother for our leaders to show some leadership?
It is difficult to relay the level of frustration I feel as a taxpayer as I watch our community make another huge financial mistake. I won’t even get into the RIM park fiasco.
Suffice it to say I was right to oppose that project just as I am right to oppose this LRT project.
Our community has faced soaring tax rates on our already inflated property values. We can ill afford another huge bump to satisfy the pie-in-the-sky dreamers at regional council. There are a vast majority of residents who have not been heard on this issue.
I have watched as councillors who lobbied for this project suddenly declare conflict of interest at the 11th hour and I am disgusted. I have watched as every other reasonable option has been discounted and shot down with no logical explanation. I have watched as the numbers themselves have changed leaving most of us bewildered as to the actual cost of building and then maintaining this white elephant. I have yet to see any open public debate on this issue whatsoever.
The region offered information sessions with no real information except that they are building a train no matter what anyone says. This arrogance must stop if there is to be genuine dialogue.
Some councillors have even suggested that anyone who is anti-LRT is not informed. I suggest that taxpayers are perhaps better informed as to how much money is available in our pockets. I believe that careful reflection on the state of the economy and the many recent jumps in the mill rate and the vast variety of local infrastructure needs would make any reasonable person doubt the viability of this project proceeding at this time.
The dialogue itself needs to be clarified before any meaningful debate can take place.
Sometimes proponents point to the project as a way to address a transit need. Buses have clearly been identified as a financially superior way to meet these needs. The argument then shifts to core intensification. Spending a billion dollars on a train to increase core intensity is like giving a patient open-heart surgery when all he needs is an aspirin. Core intensification is better achieved through zoning and financial development incentives.
The tax increases themselves may be enough to drive out development to Ken Seiling’s hometown of Elmira and other parts of the region where the tax rate won’t be impacted by the LRT.
The people arguing for LRT have done a very poor job of it and they come across as rude in their demands of my money.
The recent debacle regarding the mayor and the leaders of the two opposing LRT groups has left me disgusted with the lack of leadership being shown by our local politicians.
They need to get off the fence, pick a side and open some debate.
A project of this magnitude that has so much controversy surrounding it demands a referendum. If that’s not too much of a bother.
Scott J. Abrams
Waterloo
Good for Halloran, by Edith Blanchette
- May 26, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Good for Mayor Brenda Halloran asking for a referendum. She is asking for what many many taxpayers want in Waterloo Region — yes or no to trains or buses. To say that councillors were elected because they were going to vote for light rail transit or not is wrong, as many have excused themselves from the vote as conflict of interest.
The only vote that should count on this should be the vote on a referendum.
To say much public input has been put into this questions is wrong.
Why should taxpayers in three cities pay for a train that realtors hope will lure people, and maybe business, downtown Kitchener?
How many people are going to give up their autos for the inconvenience of hopping on buses and trains to do their shopping? We cannot afford the unproven costs and the upkeep of the light rail system. There are not enough people to support the costs predicted now.
The provincial and federal governments have huge deficits now. We need hospitals and health care more than light rail transit
Edith Blanchette
Cambridge
Referendum is the right call, by Ruth Haworth
- May 26, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit referendum pitched — May 19
My respect for Waterloo Mayor Brenda Halloran soared through the roof when I read that she is calling for a referendum on light rail transit.
In light rail transit, our region is facing the biggest decision in its history. Waterloo regional staff have provided a great deal of information about their proposal, but I feel much of the information is slanted, misleading, and possibly downright inaccurate.
Local taxpayers have grave concerns about the cost of the light rail transit, the disruption to traffic, and the changes to our cores. We are worried not just about rising taxes but also about strapped budgets that will lead to cutbacks in other programs for decades to come. We are concerned that light rail transit will result in worse transit for our region because too much money will be spent on one route, leading to cutbacks elsewhere.
We need to have an honest, open public dialogue about the light rail proposal, followed by a referendum. Thank you, Mayor Halloran, for taking leadership on this important issue.
Ruth Haworth
Waterloo
Just a scheme, by Ernie Reiter
- May 25, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit referendum pitched — May 19
It sounds like people are finally waking up to what light rail transit really is. Jeff Outhit explained it best in his column when he said: “Rail transit is an urban redevelopment scheme meant to persuade investors to build homes and workplaces near stations.”
The region wants all taxpayers to pay for a “scheme” to benefit the investors and at the same time density the city. The region has admitted that it is not really about moving people.
The region should first get the provincial government to allow those “investors” to pay for the system through lot levies, since they will reap the rewards in their land values. As well, the region should implement a real cost fare system that would apply to all operating costs.
At the moment, the region is putting the cart before the horse. It is exactly what Outhit says it is, a scheme.
Ernie Reiter
Waterloo
No way we’ll pay, by Yvette Cybulskie
- May 25, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Waterloo looks to future of its downtown — May 17
Paying for parking in central Waterloo? What kind of nonsense is that? No one wants to pay for a 10-minute stop at the drug store.
This is just a ploy by Waterloo council for light rail and public transit.
Grocery shoppers are not going to hop on any public transit vehicle if they have a large and heavy grocery order. Buses and light rail do not drop people off on their doorsteps.
Yvette Cybulskie
Waterloo
Referendum needed, by Steve Bongelli
- May 21, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit referendum pitched — May 19
Waterloo Mayor Brenda Halloran has done the right thing calling for a referendum regarding the proposed light rail transit system. The recent rash of conflict-of-interest statements from regional councilors proves we need one, but why they waited until the very last minute before the region votes is questionable at best. The plans for the train have been in place for a very long time, so one would think the conflict has been evident for some time. We, the voters, have been subject to pro-light rail information sessions, meaning do you want plan A trains or plan B trains, not do you want trains at all?
We deserve a say with a referendum, we need to have a say, and it’s the morally correct thing to do. Congratulations, Mayor Halloran for standing up and doing what’s right.
Steve Bongelli
Kitchener
More buses, please, by Sonya Knipfel
- May 20, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Train costs stall bus upgrades — April 15
I have read that Grand River Transit put a halt on plans to expand bus routes throughout the region in order to start saving money for light rail transit. That says to me that our regional council has already made a decision regarding the installation of light rail transit in the region, and that it doesn’t matter what we think.
I thought I should put my two cents in, before this actually happens.
The Bridgeport/Kiwanis area of Kitchener is slated for more than 300 new homes over the next several years, yet there are no plans to expand the Grand River Transit routes into our area. The nearest bus stop in our area of the city is between one and four kilometres away from our houses. It’s a 20-minute walk to the bus stop from my house.
Here’s how I see it. I can take 20 minutes to walk to the bus stop, wait for a bus and then get to the light rail transit line. Or, alternately, get in my car and get wherever I’m going in the region in 20 minutes or less (even in the really bad traffic). Which do you think I’m going to choose?
I might have been a supporter of light rail transit if I knew we had a bus system that serviced all areas of the region, the buses were always full, and we had a demand for more service. Why should I pay for a service that has no intention of servicing my area of town?
Sonya Knipfel
Kitchener
Buses are better, by Ann Marie Bacon
- May 20, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Light rail transit is hydro-dependent and travels on fixed rails on the road. I have some questions and concerns.
Trains would be unable to detour. More flexibility is needed than a light rail transit can provide during road closings or after accidents. As well, a light rail transit system would mean property tax increases for everyone living in Kitchener, Waterloo and Cambridge. We can’t afford more property taxes.
Every effort is being made by officials to inform and educate the public regarding the proposed $818-million transit system but we already have reliable rapid bus transit in operation that does connect the Kitchener and Waterloo area with Cambridge.
Rapid bus transit, along with Grand River Transit bus services, is very flexible and can adjust to any road detours that become necessary.
They can add more buses and increase scheduling time, especially during the increase in ridership, with the ability to implement and expand more routes, when and where this is necessary.
Ann Marie Bacon
Kitchener
Good deal for Kitchener, by Dale Ross
- May 20, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Waterloo Region claims the cost of the recommended light rail transit system is only an incremental $25 per year for the next seven years for the average home assessed at $254,000. This will result in an annual tax increase of $175 in 2018.
However, averages can be deceiving and hide some interesting facts. The average assessment in Kitchener is $208,000, Cambridge $214,000 and $295,000 in Waterloo. Therefore, I calculate that the 2018 tax increase will be $152, $156 and $216 respectively.
This means that total incremental taxes during this period will be $600 for residents of Kitchener, $620 for Cambridge and $852 for Waterloo. These figures assume that there are no cost overruns, which would be a first for a government project of this magnitude.
Is it any wonder that Kitchener Mayor Carl Zehr is such a strong supporter of light rail transit? Light rail would allow him to revitalize his city’s core — after several other failed attempts — while Cambridge and Waterloo pay for the majority of it.
Dale Ross
Waterloo
Being railroaded, by Ted Parkinson
- May 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Citizens have been poorly served by the transit planners. After all the concerns raised, these folks have given us only two options: light rail transit (in many different forms) or a rapid bus system they claim won’t do the job. They also claim we will have to rebuild all our roads for the bus option and this will prevent us from easily moving to light rail a few years later.
What about articulated buses? Or buses that stop at every other stop? Or the other options smaller cities have chosen? Why aren’t more people angry about this lack of vision?
Light rail transit is basically a replacement for the iExpress, except it is less flexible and would drop me off further from work and from the mall. Over $800 million later, it would be quieter, and a couple of minutes faster, but not as convenient. As for Waterloo, some parking spaces will be lost on King Street.
I resent being railroaded into choosing so quickly from limited options.
Ted Parkinson
Kitchener
Not the way to go, by Wanda Hoffman
- May 18, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I am opposed to light rail transit. We simply cannot afford it.
Where is the money going to come from? Taxes.
Waterloo regional council should put its transit proposal to a referendum.
An article in the Nov. 2 Record, pertaining to Waterloo city council said it all: “Councillors elected Oct. 25 met for the first time Monday for an orientation session. They said that they heard loud and clear on the doorstep that residents oppose light rail transit (LRT), a plan endorsed by the outgoing city council.
“ ‘There’s a sense in the community that LRT is not the way to go,’ ” Coun. Mark Whaley said.
Wanda Hoffman
Waterloo
LRT debate has been biased and botched, by Scott J. Abrams
- May 17, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
Is it too much of a bother for our leaders to show some leadership?
It is difficult to relay the level of frustration I feel as a taxpayer as I watch our community make another huge financial mistake. I won’t even get into the RIM park fiasco.
Suffice it to say I was right to oppose that project just as I am right to oppose this LRT project.
Our community has faced soaring tax rates on our already inflated property values. We can ill afford another huge bump to satisfy the pie-in-the-sky dreamers at regional council. There are a vast majority of residents who have not been heard on this issue.
I have watched as councillors who lobbied for this project suddenly declare conflict of interest at the 11th hour and I am disgusted. I have watched as every other reasonable option has been discounted and shot down with no logical explanation. I have watched as the numbers themselves have changed leaving most of us bewildered as to the actual cost of building and then maintaining this white elephant. I have yet to see any open public debate on this issue whatsoever.
The region offered information sessions with no real information except that they are building a train no matter what anyone says. This arrogance must stop if there is to be genuine dialogue.
Some councillors have even suggested that anyone who is anti-LRT is not informed. I suggest that taxpayers are perhaps better informed as to how much money is available in our pockets. I believe that careful reflection on the state of the economy and the many recent jumps in the mill rate and the vast variety of local infrastructure needs would make any reasonable person doubt the viability of this project proceeding at this time.
The dialogue itself needs to be clarified before any meaningful debate can take place.
Sometimes proponents point to the project as a way to address a transit need. Buses have clearly been identified as a financially superior way to meet these needs. The argument then shifts to core intensification. Spending a billion dollars on a train to increase core intensity is like giving a patient open-heart surgery when all he needs is an aspirin. Core intensification is better achieved through zoning and financial development incentives.
The tax increases themselves may be enough to drive out development to Ken Seiling’s hometown of Elmira and other parts of the region where the tax rate won’t be impacted by the LRT.
The people arguing for LRT have done a very poor job of it and they come across as rude in their demands of my money.
The recent debacle regarding the mayor and the leaders of the two opposing LRT groups has left me disgusted with the lack of leadership being shown by our local politicians.
They need to get off the fence, pick a side and open some debate.
A project of this magnitude that has so much controversy surrounding it demands a referendum. If that’s not too much of a bother.
Scott J. Abrams
Waterloo
A billion-dollar gamble, by John Mladek
- May 17, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I went to two public consultation meetings on rapid transit— the first in 2009 and the second on May 10. Neither appeared to be a place where local transit experts would listen or pay attention to the people who had different views or did not agree with them on implementation of the light rail system. It was practically a sales pitch to convince people to approve it.
Based on the information we have been fed by the region, I have a great doubt that assumptions the planners used to justify the light rail transit are realistic. They believe that if we build it people will use it, that companies and people will line up to build and live alongside of the rail corridor, that it will encourage people to use cars much less, and that we have to do it to accommodate all those moving to the region. Are most of those future people going to use light rail transit?
One assumption that rings true is that people will never get out of their cars and the train will be heavily underused with massive subsidy that taxpayers will have to bear forever. It is, in short, a billion-dollar gamble and future white elephant.
John Mladek
Kitchener
It’s just a bad idea, by Jan Narveson
- May 16, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Rails are less costly — may 10
The many letters The Record has received in favour of the proposed light rail project all underestimate of costs.
I also think these writers show great enthusiasm for projects that will cost other people a great deal of money. In this example, James Howe claims rail will be less costly, although he doesn’t supply any figures to help his case out.
The $1-billion capital costs needed to build a light rail transit system is way more than enough to pay for lots and lots of upkeep on buses, forever and ever.
His claims about inflexibility are incredible. He only talks about rapid buses, but even with them rerouting is a matter of painting some lines on pavement, not tearing up the pavement to install tracks whose future effect is to make auto traffic difficult or impossible.
And, of course, ordinary buses, as opposed to rapid buses, are totally flexible; they can go anywhere that normal cars do.
And once again he talks about “going back solely to road building,” as expensive without bothering to address the point that the roads are all here, it’s not a matter of building new ones but just of maintaining what we’ve got.
The case remains: A light rail system will serve a very small clientele at enormous cost and enormous disruption of all other traffic along its intended routes. It’s such a bad idea that it should really count as a scam.
Jan Narveson
Waterloo
Income disparities, by Jason Deneault
- May 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: What we think about transit — May 6
This article, indicating the age-gap division in support for the light rail transit proposal, is not very surprising. I do wonder, though, about the percentage of those people who are homeowners versus students or renters.
Therein lies some important information. Older generations have fixed incomes and their property taxes continue to rise every year to unmitigated heights. Younger people tend to have more disposable income and may not yet face the reality of taxes and household bills. While I am not saying that higher taxes are the number one factor, I am sure that it does hold some truth. Or maybe it is the fact that older people remember that at one time we had street cars driving through our cities with all of the infrastructure in place.
It is possible that the older generation wants to leave a legacy of low taxes and not want the younger people to have pay for the LRT for many years to come? This is a legacy project for our regional councilors — nothing more than that. We live in a democratic society, let’s see what the people have to say and put it to a vote.
Jason Deneault
Kitchener
Who will pay for it?, by John Innanen
- May 11, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: What we think about transit — May 6
I have read Jeff Outhit’s recent extensive articles about who does and does not favour road improvements, rapid transit buses and light rail options.
Being among Outhit’s “vintage” age group, I cannot help but offer my personal comment about the observed division of opinions by gender age. The survey results indicate to me, in general, that younger people who may not yet have the earning power to afford private transportation, plus individuals who may not have their own private transportation, appear to prefer the most expensive rapid transit option.
Add the “boys-like-toys” factor and I think the survey results can adequately be explained.
In a nutshell: “Hey, Mom and Pop. This is cool. Will you buy it for us? If you can’t, who will, because I can’t pay for it.”
I think a style of transit that supposedly changes society for the better is nice, but I know the region, the province and the federal government will insist I pay for what I get.
I am doubtful those who want the Cadillac version of regional transit can foot their portion of the cost.
John Innanen
Kitchener
What does youth know?, by Hans Koster
- May 11, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: What we think about transit — May 6
It seems funny that the majority of the people in favour of light rail transit are the 18- to 29-year-olds, mostly students who pay no city or regional taxes. The only fair way to decide is a vote by the people of the region.
Hans Koster
Kitchener
Region is not telling the full story about light rail transit costs, by Dale Ross
- May 10, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
There has been considerable rhetoric in the last few weeks on this issue.
Ken Seiling, like “Chicken Little,” would have us believe that this is the best thing since sliced bread and we are doomed to a life of mediocrity if we do not proceed.
Regional staff quotes biased surveys designed by vested interests in a controlled environment as support from the general public for their recommendations.
A professional survey contracted by the local media clearly shows otherwise.
Opponents want us to believe that this is the next RIM Park.
The reality is probably somewhere in between.
Regardless there have been some basic questions left unanswered.
That is, what can we afford and what do the taxpayers really want?
In the recent municipal election, although she originally voted for the LRT, Mayor Halloran stated that she had heard from the people and that the majority were opposed to the project.
Yet she is currently keeping an open mind to the debate.
Will this be another one of her flip-flops? Let’s look at the cost for the residents of the region.
Like RIM Park they are back-end loaded.
The Region quotes property assessment values of $225,000 for their statistics and an annual tax increase of 1.5 per cent for a total of 10.5 per cent.
The reality is that those numbers are not cumulative, and should be compounded and continued beyond 2018.
This results in a 37 per cent tax increase from 2012 to 2034.
For a home assessed at $225,000, the incremental cost is $6,300.
At $300,000, that cost is $7,680, $400,000 is $10,200 and $500,000 is $15,360 respectively.
This assumes no cost overruns and that ridership meets expectations.
Would you bet on the accuracy of these forecasts?
Dale Ross
Waterloo
A majority said no, by Ron Ridgway
- Msy 5, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
In my reading and rereading of this article, The Record’s pie charts continued to say to me: Those in favour of light rail 38 per cent, those opposed to light rail 62 per cent.
Ron Ridgway
Waterloo
Rails have drawbacks, by George Carter
- Msy 3, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Debate about the pros and cons of light rail transit is good, but please consider the following.
The proposed roads are not wide enough; continual rail-induced road repairs will become insufferable; cross-road jams will be intolerable and potentially dangerous; traffic jams will be avoidable only if motorists take alternative routes; alternative routes will obviously take away from main street business; more traffic controls will become necessary on alternate routes; and (this is the big one) buses provide flexibility whereas iron rails do not.
George Carter
Baden
Fed up with debate, by Rosemarie Bergmann
- Msy 2, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
As a former Kitchener Transit operator, driver education instructor, courier, cab driver, truck insurance patrol car driver, I refuse to read one more article on light rail transit.
I have binders and bins overflowing with suggestions, pro and con. Go ahead and build the darn thing. Why shouldn’t the overtaxed taxpayers of Kitchener and Waterloo get one more white elephant to add to the botched-up projects we have tolerated?
They had to demolish the old city hall to build a mall that has hardly anything in it. Then to anchor the downtown core, they built King Centre, which is now an insurance company. Dare I mention the Kitchener farmers’ market or RIM Park?
We should take the advice of the two most intelligent men I have ever heard on the subject of light rail transit, John Shortreed and Andy Haydon, engineers who talk sense. If we don’t, our grandchildren’s grandchildren will be paying the billions for the triple-articulated 90-foot-long behemoth with tracks on the road and overhead wires, travelling in both directions every six to seven minutes from one boring mall to another.
Put your vehicle in the garage for three months and go everywhere via GRT. If you don’t use the system now, shut up.
Rosemarie Bergmann
Kitchener
Owellian sessions, by Bob Lazenby
- Apr 28, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
Re: Councillors still trying to gauge if there’s support for light rail transit — April 15
I am one of those taxpayers so arrogantly and offensively labelled as “ill-informed” by Nancy Button, Waterloo regional director of rapid transit, and regional Coun. Jim Wideman.
They themselves are sadly ill-informed if they believe that they can pass off the opinion of a minuscule number of meeting attendees as being representative of the hundreds of thousands who did not attend.
A recent writer to The Record, who had attended the so-called “information sessions,” noted that only one point of view was presented, which is hardly surprising given the track record of power-mad planners, experts, and “consultants.” Apparently, there will be some 16 more of these Orwellian brain-washing sessions which will doubtless be just as biased as those held previously.
Button and Wideman can say whatever they wish but they will never be able to justify the opinion of 450 people as being that of a regional population of more than half a million.
If ever an issue merited a referendum, this it.
Bob Lazenby
Cambridge
Waterloo Region not big enough to support LRT, by David Ramsay
- Apr 26, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
We have been told buses are not a viable option to meet the transit needs of the region.
There is not one city in North America, or anywhere else that I could find with a population of less than one million, that has Light Rail Transit — streetcars excepted.
All these cities have found ways to meet the transit demands on all their transit routes without resorting to LRT.
With metro Kitchener-Waterloo’s population currently at 340,000 and an estimated 462,000 in 2031, why can’t we? With a population of over one million, LRT may be a viable transit option; with a population of 340,000, it is foolhardy.
David Ramsay
Waterloo
Ask the people, by Michael Jugovic
- April 21, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Councillors still trying to gauge if there's support for light rail transit - April 15
As an informed reader of The Record, and one who is very knowledgeable on the light rail transit plans, I feel that the decision on the LRT should not be made by the Waterloo regional councilors, but by the people.
How can 705 people - the number who answered a regional questionnaire - out of the 500,000-plus people living in Waterloo Region be our voice?
The regional director of rapid transit, Nancy Button, must think like regional Coun. Jim Wideman that a tiny percentage of the population is the informed while the rest of us are idiots. Come on, councilors, be honest with yourselves and honest to the people who voted for you. Let us decide our fate. Have a referendum vote.
Michael Jugovic
Kitchener
Buses would test transit ridership, by Mark Peterson
- April 21, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Train costs stall bus upgrades - April 15
The Region of Waterloo government has put the cart before the horse with respect to the proposed light rail transit system. Delaying bus upgrades on the cross-town feeder lines until after the rail line is in place is not the way to go.
A brand new rapid train that is mostly empty, because people in the suburbs can't access it easily, will have an instant image problem. If efficient cross-town lines feeding an enhanced version of the current main line express bus system were built first, the bus system might prove to be so successful that the billion-dollar rail system might not even be needed.
If, on the other hand, more efficient cross-town lines don't increase ridership on the main line express buses, would we not be kidding ourselves that a train instead of an express bus will make a real difference?
Mark Peterson
Kitchener
A divisive issue, by Judy Garrett
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light-rail proposal gets boost — April 9
Although I read with dismay the article about the results of the regional government’s transit survey, I was not really surprised. The LRT proposal remains the most controversial and divisive issue ever faced by Waterloo Region. The outcome should not be based on the results of a survey conducted by the clearly partisan regional government transit group.
In spite of, or perhaps because of, the huge negative reaction to the LRT proposal which many councillors noted during last fall’s election campaign, a second round of “public information meetings” was held this winter.
Like the meetings two years ago, these were quite obviously a vehicle to promote the regional government’s longstanding bias for LRT. I wonder how fair and democratic the process is when the entire survey is set up and conducted by the very group pushing for LRT. Can you have a survey where one of only two non-LRT options is labeled “not feasible?”
There should have been people at the meetings who represented all points of view and could offer the public objective information.
The article carefully states that “those who completed questionnaires at public forums had preference for light-rail transit.” Does this mean that the preferences of those of us who attended the meetings but sent in our opinions online were not counted? And who did the counting?
What we really need is what the public wants: a referendum.
Judy Garrett
Kitchener
We deserve referendum, by Susan Forwell Recchia
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light-rail proposal gets boost — April 9
As a former Region of Waterloo councillor, I am astounded that the region’s obvious bias continues to make headlines in a positive spin.
The survey is invalid on so many levels. The survey put forth nine options for light rail and identified the status quo (more roads, better bus service) as not feasible. In the region’s most recent peer review, the following statement is made regarding Cambridge transit needs: “Until ridership demand increases in Cambridge, a BRT (bus rapid transit) will provide excellent service, in a financially prudent manner that is well matched to the developing nature of Cambridge’s transit market.”
I couldn’t have said it better myself for Kitchener-Waterloo. The public is screaming for a referendum on this issue. The risks are enormous and we deserve as much.
Susan Forwell Recchia
Waterloo
No time savings, by Mary Pooley-Brodt
Re: Light-rail proposal gets boost — April 9
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
To read the above headline regarding the proposed light rail transit for Waterloo Region, one believes it has garnered mass appeal. Yet further reading reveals only 1,000 people attended the public meetings and only 705 completed questionnaires of which 66 per cent supported trains from Conestoga Mall to Fairview Park mall.
With a regional population of 534,900, it is mind numbingly arrogant for the light rail proponents to suggest these meagre numbers are a clear indication that the public at large agree with them.
Currently, by express bus it takes 42 minutes to travel from Kitchener to Waterloo, while the proposed travel time by light rail would be 39 minutes. The transit time now between Fairview mall and Ainslie Street in Cambridge is 33 minutes; the proposed express bus would cut this down to 30 minutes. To put this in perspective, the powers that be want to spend almost one billion dollars to shave off six minutes of travel time. A wise investment?
Mary Pooley-Brodt
Kitchener
Go with buses, by M. Carl Kaufman
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The Record has proclaimed a “boost” for light rail transit. Approximately 465 people out of a regional population of almost 300,000 have indicated they would like to see light rail transit in this region. To me, that does not seem like much of a “boost.”
I attended the presentations and completed the survey. Both were very biased in favour of an LRT system. The artists’ renderings of the project were very misleading. Where were the overhead wires? Where were the backed-up intersections?
I hope people will take the time to examine the plans for the LRT route from the University of Waterloo to downtown Waterloo. They are a recipe for disaster.
Let’s improve public transit with more buses, using smaller ones during off-peak times; better shelters; easier transfers; and traffic lanes dedicated to public transit.
The taxpayers cannot afford the $1 billion to build the system, the huge cost of operating it, and the subsidies needed to keep it running.
M. Carl Kaufman
Waterloo
Spinning the numbers, by Helen Ellis
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light-rail proposal gets boost — April 9
This article claims that “a plan for light-rail trains running from Conestoga Mall in Waterloo to Fairview Park mall in Kitchener is supported by 66 per cent of people who attended recent information sessions.” But when we read further, we see the 66 per cent figure really refers to those who favour light rail trains, regardless of route. We learn that only 41 per cent of those who favour light rail trains prefer the mall-to-mall option. By my calculation, that means that less than 30 per cent of the respondents favour the region’s plan, not 66 per cent.
The only way the region can find a rosy message here is by supposing that those who favour light rail running all the way to Ainslie Street in Cambridge would regard the mall-to-mall option as their second choice. It is much more likely that most people who want the line to run all the way to Ainslie Street would prefer no rapid transit rather than the mall-to-mall option.
Helen Ellis
Waterloo
We don’t want trains, by Glenda Wall
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Train costs stall bus upgrades — April 15
Candidates during the last municipal election heard loud and clear at the doorstep that voters in Waterloo region do not want trains. They don’t seem to have heard. Not only do trains appear to be on the agenda again, but the latest plan calls for pushing ahead with trains without the support of express buses feeding into the system. This is a plan that is designed to ensure its failure, and at a cost of a 10.5 per cent tax hike.
Glenda Wall
Waterloo
Hold a referendum, by Tom Fitzsimmons
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Light rail transit supporters were probably happy to see the questionnaire results from the recent information sessions held around Waterloo Region. Based on the survey results, regional staff does not recommend any changes to the proposed plans and the findings showing 66 per cent of the respondents supporting light rail will be presented to regional staff on Tuesday.
On the surface it would appear to be an open dialogue initiated by our politicians to seek input before they make a huge financial decision. But there is much more information that is not being shared. The region’s population is about 544,000 — six per cent of those folks (about 32,000) currently use public transit. Out of that total, about 1,000 attended the information sessions. The majority of those folks clearly was very interested in transit options and indicated such in the surveys.
What’s missing here is an opportunity for 94 per cent of the population to voice an opinion on the transit options. The only way to do that is by way of a referendum, the results of which should be made binding on regional council.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Just an LRT sales job, by Paul M. Knight
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The information session about light rail transit in Waterloo Region seemed to my wife and I to be an all-out sales job, disguised as information. There were table after table of well prepared light-rail maps. But were there aany alternatives? No.
Staff was on hand for questions, but all pro light-rail brainwashed. I believe light-rail’s train only lanes would add to the congestion. I suggested the use of non-polluting electric buses, using curb lanes that could be shared by cars. They responded that studies show passengers prefer light-rail over buses. Why?
Admittedly, many answers were thoughtfully logical. But no alternative was considered in any manner but negatively.
We should demand a referendum.
Paul M. Knight
Kitchener
It’s not progress, by Norm Knutson
- April 19, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light-rail proposal gets boost — April 9
This Record article is based on results from a written questionnaire answered at recent Region of Waterloo information sessions. However, these results were based on a self-selected rather than representative sample of the region’s public. Those with particularly strong opinions about rapid transit came to these sessions and many of those chose to fill out questionnaires. Given that nine of 11 options involved light rail transit, the results were hardly surprising.
However, I remain persuaded that the vast majority of Waterloo Region residents are opposed to LRT. That was certainly the feedback during the recent municipal elections. As a bus-rapid-transit supporter, I am not opposed to progress. However, building a system with an unknown ultimate cost that will not achieve its projected ridership results may not reduce future street and highway costs, and will mess up our core communities. This is not my idea of progress.
Norman Knutson
Kitchener
Taxes will rise, by Lloyd Mundy
- April 8, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit comments — March 23
We, the taxpayers, voted this council in to represent us. Most of the people in favour of rapid transit live in apartments or are students. They will not be affected by another major increase in residential taxes.
We recently spent time in London, Ont., a city with a slightly larger population than both Kitchener and Waterloo combined. London does not have a Conestoga Parkway, and is not embracing a rapid transit system.
If council makes a blunder that would substantially increase our taxes, councillors should not worry about any future expansion because buyers would avoid this area owing to residential taxes.
Lloyd Mundy
Waterloo
Buses are better, by Craig Bailey
- April 6, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
It is rare to see a too-packed-to-pick-you-up bus? If anyone believes this is an issue though, they can trace it back to when university students started paying a reduced fee to board the buses via student cards. But that was not a bad decision. Those students contribute quite a bit to our region’s economy.
The iXpress bus is very popular and will soon be running every 10 minutes. New express routes that will run through our community have also been planned. More commuters can enjoy that service and won’t be packed into one route. That is excellent.
If these express buses do become crowded we could use extended buses. These are double the size of ours. And if we create adapted bus rapid transit with signal priority, queue jumping, and bus bypassing shoulders our service becomes faster — equal to light rail transit’s speed, and much cheaper. No protected tracks in the middle of our roads would be needed either.
And if these become too crowded we can do what profit earning corporations like Greyhound and GO Transit do – create separate buses for university students during their peak travel times. The Grand River Transit routes can be altered to accommodate both the students and employees during rush hour. Our entire region can be serviced well with an adapted bus system than with light rail transit.
Craig Bailey
Cambridge
Cart before the horse, by Jim Fiddler
- April 6, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Apparently the taxpayers have an extra $600- to $800-million to install a light rail rapid transit system through Kitchener and Waterloo.
Having attended the public meetings on this issue, I expressed my view that the route had neither the jobs nor the residences to justify a fixed rail type system. I was told that this system’s real purpose was to in fill the downtowns with offices and residence apartments and only then would the volumes justify the expense of a rail system. In other words, put the cart before the horse and hope things go the right way.
Why not use that $600- to $800-million to in-fill the downtowns with geared to income mid- and highrise housing. That amount of money would more than satisfy a genuine need of many lower-income Kitchener and Waterloo residents. Then use some of the remaining money to help fiancé private developers to build their office towers. Then we would have the people and jobs needed in the downtowns. Then let a private developer do the light rail system.
Jim Fiddler
Cambridge
Cable transit is proven, by Matthew Phillips
- April 6, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
An Aerobus transit system is far from new or unproven technology.
Any transit system has three parts: the vehicle, the runningway, and the engine. In this case, the runningway is above ground grade and the vehicle hangs below. The engine is part of the runningway and the vehicle is pulled by cable.
Regional Chair Ken Seiling calls this “an unproven system,” yet the concept has been in operation for 110 years. The Schwebebahn, following the Wupper River in Germany, opened in 1901 and the full 8.3 miles (13.3 km) with 20 stations opened in 1903. There are numerous other examples of well-designed cable transit systems around the world where need — and not biased opinion — determined the most suitable system, including Rio de Janeiro’s system that opened in 2011.
Coun. Jane Mitchell says that such a technology would be more dangerous — but which is more likely, a person jaywalking or car turning left on King Street being hit by a ground-level train, or by an elevated system that is engineered to be structurally sound and inaccessible to unauthorized parties?
The Schwebebahn had a perfect safety record from 1901 to 1999, when five fatalities occurred due to a contractor leaving metal debris on the track. Can any Canadian transit system claim as much?
Matthew Phillips
Toronto
Buses offer best route, by Mary Solomon
- April 4, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: The region’s transit plans
The controversy about whether we should go with light rail over buses in Waterloo Region should be settled because of the recent fire on King Street in Kitchener that resulted in King being closed for several days. While it is unclear exactly where a light rail system would go it is obvious that in a situation like this buses would have to take over the light rail route. Many other things could affect light rail transit, such as burst water mains resulting in street flooding, snow and ice, and accidents blocking the route.
Light rail seems too vulnerable. Invest in top of the line buses. They can go wherever they are needed and bypass road blockages.
Run them from Cambridge to Elmira and add buses to Guelph. Then we would have a superior transit system which would not be bound by two tracks.
Mary Solomon
Kitchener
Drop transit plan, by Ed Redgwell
- April 1, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light rail's heavy expense
In 50 years as a taxpayer I have not seen an issue so divisive in our city as rapid transit.
Most of the blame must be laid on regional council, which has done little to explain it to the tax-payers. The bulk of usage will have to come from teh suburbs but no explanation of how it will be achieved in a rapid, efficient and economical manner.
To suggest they will be able to force people out of their cars and onto rapid transit is nonsense and will happen only if it suits their purpose and shows their naivete on the whole issue.
Meanwhile, the City of Kitchener has its plate full wiht a whole range of serious financial issues, the Victoria Park lake cleanup and the huge permanent city debt brought about by previous councils that need immediate attention.
So before we rush off in another direction spending huge sums of money on a system we do not need, at the moment, I would remind everyone of an old expression never more profound than now "the faster we go the behinder we get."
Ed Redgwell
Kitchener
Light rail elephant, by John Petersen
- March 31, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: How about totally free public transit? – March 19
I could not have said it better than Robert Roach. I also think a light rail transit system would be an expensive white elephant, which at best might make a long narrow strip of development, and will not get people out of their cars.
I have for a long time said that a grid system of transit lines should be laid out in such a way that any home would be less than 10 minutes walk from nearest transit stop, and less than 10 minutes waiting time. And at the other end, less than 10 minutes walk to final destination. That may get people out of their cars, and result in a lot less traffic on our roads.
John Petersen
Kitchener
Light rail marketing, by Mark Sommer
- March 25, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: The region’s transit plans
A couple of months ago, a regional councillor assured me that when regional government took another look at rapid transit, it would present an updated plan based on “facts and logic.” He was mistaken.
The region simply trotted out a new marketing strategy, with its original design attractively priced in the middle of the pack. Bus alternatives were devoid of thought and imagination. This probably surprised no one. In its zeal to market light rail transit, the region has consistently chosen promotional claims over real information.
In another piece of marketing hype, it is repeatedly claimed that light rail will create more development near transit “stations” than buses can.
When I went looking on the region’s website, I was flabbergasted to find that every stop is called a “station.” If a rail system is put in place, I wonder how much development will be created because of concrete pads with less protection from the elements than an ordinary bus shelter, as shown in the artist’s renderings. For those entrepreneurs who are eager to invest near a train station, I wonder how impressed they will be when nothing resembling a station materializes.
Mark Sommer
Kitchener
Rail plan requires broad approach, by Dave Hallman
- March 24, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Long-term transit planning
The proposal for a rapid train link from Waterloo’s Conestoga Mall to Fairway Road in Kitchener or Ainslie Street in Cambridge completely misses the point. Our political region has three major urban centres: Kitchener, Waterloo and Cambridge. However, our geographic region has four centers: Kitchener, Waterloo, Cambridge plus Guelph.
The transit debate should be looking 30 to 50 years in the future when, realistically, this will be one urban area. I cannot comprehend how we are discussing a rail link from Waterloo to possibly Cambridge when currently it is not convenient to take a bus to Kitchener’s Via station to go to the Greater Toronto Area. (We will have GO train service at the end of this year.)
I believe that we should stick to the current rapid buses (iXpress and others) and focus on expanding rapid bus service where required.
We should immediately be considering a joint venture with the City of Guelph for a rapid bus route from the current Charles Street terminal to the downtown Guelph terminal on a 30-minute schedule from 5 a.m. till 1 a.m.
I also believe that we should be honestly looking at a comprehensive bus and rail terminal around Victoria and King streets in Kitchener to support our region’s future transit requirements.
Dave Hallman
Kitchener
Check fast buses,by Michael Booth
- March 24, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit plans
The light rail transit decision will be made by local politicians very soon. Prof. John Shortreed is a recognized authority on public transportation internationally and has studied light rail around the world and seen where it works and where it fails. He has concluded that we don’t have a sufficient critical mass of ridership in Waterloo Region for the proposed light rail to succeed now or in the future. The politicians have admitted that the primary goal is to increase intensification of business in downtown Kitchener, which Shortreed feels is very unlikely to happen.
During the recent municipal elections, politicians were surprised at the backlash to the light proposal. Despite this, eight of the 10 transportation proposals involved light rail. The original estimates have gone from around $800 million to as high as $1.5 billion and we are all going to be paying for this for a very long time.
Did we learn nothing from the RIM Park fiasco? This could very well end up as a white elephant.
Yes, we need to be proactive about public transportation, so let’s fully explore fast buses rather than light rail. Regional council could make a very expensive mistake but it’s not too late to reverse the decision.
Michael Booth
Waterloo
Look at the tracks, by Glenda Nancarrow
- March 24, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Use Rail Lines – March 18
Letter writer Veikko Kuronen raises a very interesting point. If we indeed have rail lines in the Kitchener, Waterloo, St. Jacobs, Elmira and Cambridge areas, we should at least consider the cost involved to refurbish these lines. As Kuronen points out, they already go by all three hospitals, both universities, the Via train station, all malls, St. Jacobs, etc., and on to Elmira. Tracks could be extended to Cambridge. Existing tracks would have to be refurbished and some land bought for it to be extended to Cambridge; however; it should be studied and a cost comparison done.
The cost may be similar to the original plans but there would be more users as it services a lot more than just the downtown areas. It would relieve congestion on King Street and the merchants would not have to endure another disruption as they tear up the street, yet again, to install the tracks.
As Kuronen has stated, it would interconnect with buses for crosstown service and share existing land rail right of way.
If we are going to spend a lot of money — let’s get it right.
Glenda Nancarrow
Waterloo
A tax bill vote, by George Stec
- March 23, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Put it to the people — Feb. 25
The idea of letting the people of Waterloo Region vote for a light rail system does not have to be expensive. Just include a ballot with the 2011 final tax bill and have everyone vote when they pay their tax bill. Simple.
In this way we will put Regional Chair Ken Seiling where he belongs and if he is not happy he can always resign and make everyone happy.
George Stec
Waterloo
Transit comments, by Peter Williams
- March 23, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: The region’s light rail plans
I am alarmed at the lack of consideration being paid to the wishes of many citizens of our area about the light rail transit plan. I believe the sentiment of taxpayers was made abundantly clear during the recent municipal elections. We should be extremely prudent with a plan as permanent and costly as a transportation system.
My fear is the sources we must depend on to make the decisions and monitor the project are not adequate to the task.
Consider past events. I was told a number of years ago that the regional engineering staff rarely completed or supervised a project that came in on time or on budget. We should assess past performance of those who ultimately would manage the project. These are the same people who have the sign on the outside of the new Waterloo Museum in the same colours as the wall behind the letters, rendering the sign almost invisible.
Let’s stop and reconsider the light rail project. Why are we rushing into a decision in June 2011? Perhaps someday, with adequate information provided, and a referendum, we can revisit the questions of transit and growth patterns. Why do we not have a grid system for bus service?
Peter Williams
Kitchener
Funky buses, by Sam Metzger
- March 22, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit plans
While having a family discussion about the obvious expense and drawbacks to a light transit rail system, we tossed around a few ideas such as the sky train that Vancouver has or a well-laid-out subway system, such as in New York City.
Getting back to reality though, does it not make sense to have a well-laid-out more upbeat bus system?
Never taking the bus, I can only rely on my children’s perception of the length of time it takes them to get from one place to another in the current bus system. Since the cities are becoming (in my opinion) fairly upbeat, would a more upbeat buses/transportation not go over well?
There is a stigma in this area with riding the bus. Perhaps this could be turned around and appeal to everyone in the area with a more funky bus system with open sections to stand or sit in, with a San Francisco look. A direct route straight down King Street would be a good start. Not only would they be more of a colourful city attraction with some ambience, but it could be quite lucrative as well.
The size of our city with big-city amenities makes it a great place to live. I don’t know many people who would say “thank you” to a future Toronto, New York or Paris.
Sam Metzger
Waterloo
Go with buses, by Jan Narveson
- March 21, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Roads are costly — March 17
Letter writer George Bechtel talks about the costs of road building, and supposes that building trains instead will help. The trouble is, we need those roads. Almost all of the people who take a train will still drive cars to all those innumerable places the trains don’t go to, or will drive to train stations if they do take them, etc. This incudes all the roads he mentions, none of which would be displaced by a light rail transit system.
The fact is that a light rail system will be an enormous addition to transportation costs in our area, and there’s no way around it. Since the system is designed to make life miserable for car drivers while it’s at it, the net loss to the community, as compared with continuing improvements to the bus system, is enormous.
Jan Narveson
Waterloo
Want something to protest? Try transit, by Bryan Rogers
- March 21, 2011
- Cambridge Times
To the people who are pissed at the $6 million being spent on the new Cambridge theatre:
You, along with the rest of Cambridge, should be bitching about the projected cost of the Waterloo Region rapid transit project.
There is a billion dollars to worry about there, not $6 million. In the Times last Thursday, there was a list of the 11 options. The question being asked was how much will you pay for transit?
One example given was light rail transit from Conestoga Mall to Fairview Mall, and bus rapid transit from Fairview Mall to Ainslie Street.
The cost would be an estimated annual incremental household impact of about $22.63 over six years. The grand total for this would be $475.23. At first glance it would appear that $22.63 would be added to your property tax bill yearly. But the word incremental puts a whole differrent spin on things.
This, to my way of thinking, will increase my current property taxes at least 25 per cent, and we have not added in the increased tax bills of the school boards or city taxes yet. The example of the increased tax bill will undoubtedly affect those taxes, too. The total cost to our property taxes will be absolutly huge.
At the end of the options was a footnote which said that costs were based on an average property assessment of $225,000. The transit-related tax increase is expected to plateau and continue at 2017 levels. That statement is an oxymoron. Taxes simply do not plateau, it is always onward and upward.
Another related headline says, “Confusion over rapid transit cost.”
Are we surprised of this? To my way of thinking, this was done to hide the true cost to the taxpayer. This rapid transit project will have a huge impact on property taxes for many years to come.
So get a grip protesters. If you really want to take something on that is really worthwhile, take on the rapid transit project.
Bryan Rogers
Cambridge
Improve bus service, by Tracy Lapointe
- March 18, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Regional transit
Back up the bus! Before anyone spends any money on a rapid transit or rail system, Grand River Transit should be made to prove it can create a scheduling system and routes that actually work. Taking three buses to get to work or school is not a reasonable mode of transportation when travelling from Kitchener to Waterloo. Grand River Transit should be enticing more riders out of their cars by routing and scheduling buses in an efficient manner. We don’t need to look to Toronto or Montreal for their systems — they’re just not realistic for our needs. Be reasonable and look to centres with approximately the same population and area as Waterloo Region.
Don’t even get me started on the lack of service to and from Cambridge. Prove to all of us that the transit system and the region are truly even considering inclusion of this city in their transit plans. When our post-secondary education facilities are located all over the region, getting students in and out of these centres should be higher in priority. Most students can’t afford the luxury of having a vehicle to access some of these facilities without adding the expense to their ever-mounting student debt. I would gladly take public transit ... if I could get to work within the hour but that’s not going to happen at this rate.
Tracy Lapointe
Kitchener
Bus system needs extra money, by Peter Martynko
- March 17, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I have been a Kitchener resident for 47 years — my entire life. I understand that Waterloo regional council is considering introducing a light rail transit system.
Let’s take a look at costs. I like to take the analogy of what we say to our kids: If it is within our budget we can purchase an extra computer or a laptop. In other words, if the money is there we can have whatever we want. On a larger scale, as far as light rail transit goes, we are talking about millions which the region does not have.
In my opinion, if we don’t have the money then we do without the light rail transit system and continue going on with buses that are already in place. Putting in a light rail transit system will cause residents’ taxes to go up further, when they are on their way up as it is.
I am an avid user of transit for the past 35-plus years. I definitely would like to see more buses put in place and have more money, if available, put into the bus system that is already in place. This would make more sense and would save the region and taxpayers alike thousands if not millions.
Peter Martynko
Kitchener
The small-car route, by Sabine Wootten
- March 16, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The Waterloo Region Record recently asked us to imagine what our city will be like in a few years, once the rail transit is built. Well, my imagination runs a little further out, say to 10 years or so from now.
Small, self-driving podlike cars now being tested will be the transit choice. You will be able to call them up, they will come and pick you up and take you anywhere you want to go in the city. They will have GPS guidance systems, advanced obstacle avoidance, be light and safe. Most people will not need to own their own vehicle. Because they are small and use the roadways efficiently, congestion will be decreased. Parking won’t be needed.
And what will Waterloo Region be doing? Well, we will still be paying off our expensive, inflexible light rail transit system, which serves only a narrow corridor. We won’t be able to afford the new technology any time soon.
Sabine Wootten
Waterloo
Light rail isn’t popular in U.S., by Tom Fitzsimmons
- March 16, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Two views on transit — March 5
Tim Mollison and Ruth Haworth both wrote excellent articles on their respective opinions concerning the pros and cons of our various transit options. There is now probably more than enough information for people to make their decision on bus/rail, bus only, road only, rail only, etc.
The problem is that we are not choosing an option for moving people but rather an option to increase downtown densification and get people out of their cars, and most of our politicians are heavily pushing this initiative as a solution to population growth and traffic congestion 20 years into the future.
Our American neighbours have had light rail transit and high-speed rail systems in place for over 30 years now — let’s look at some of their statistics. Every day, 140 million Americans go to work, with 85 per cent of them driving 25 minutes each way, three quarters of them drive alone. In the northeast corridor with about 45 million people, Amtrak’s daily ridership is 28,500 — I think I’ve seen a higher number than that in our light rail ridership proposals.
The consensus down south is that many high-speed rail projects are a perfect example of wasteful spending masquerading as a respectable social cause. I can only hope that our politicians think twice about what they are about to do with $1 billion of our money.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Funky, upbeat buses needed, by Sam Metzger
- March 15, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
While having a family discussion about the obvious expense and drawbacks to a light rail transit system, we tossed around a few ideas such as the Skytrain that Vancouver has, or a well laid-out subway system, such as in New York City. Getting back to reality though, does it not make sense to have a well laid- out, more upbeat bus system?
Never taking the bus, I can only rely on my children’s perception of the length of time in the current out-of- the-way routes they would have to take to get from one central point to another in the existing bus system. Since the cities (in my opinion) are becoming fairly upbeat, would more upbeat buses/transportation not go over well?
There is a stigma in this area with riding the bus. Perhaps this could be turned around and appeal to everyone in the area with a more funky bus system with open sections to stand or sit in, such as in San Francisco.
A direct route straight down King St. would be a good start. Not only would they be more of a colourful city attraction with some ambiance, but it could be quite lucrative as well.
Sam Metzger
Waterloo
LRT a lame-brain idea, by Bob Konarski
- March 15, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
People: we need LRT like a hole in the head. . . or shall I say a hole in our pockets? Let’s utilize our current resources to the max first — before we buy into this lame-brain idea.
LRT must be coming to us from the same clever people that screwed up traffic flow on Davenport Road and Bearinger Road. What a total waste of good travelable real estate.
If it was done for traffic calming, all it did was snarl traffic.
Bob Konarski
Waterloo
The light rail bill, by Ellen Shields
- March 15, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Riding the rails — Feb. 19, Can transit transform the region? — Feb. 26
The more I read about Waterloo regional council’s proposal to spend at least $1 billion to bring rapid transit to Waterloo Region, the more confusing I find the whole project. According to Jeff Outhit’s detailed analysis of Feb. 19, the proposed rapid transit would not be significantly faster than the current system. In his followup article of Feb. 26, Outhit reveals that many of the people behind the push for rapid transit do not see its main purposes as transit; instead, they see it as a way to attract redevelopment into the downtown areas. So, if I understand all of this, rapid transit will not actually be rapid, nor will its primary purpose be transit.
Supposedly, when potential investors see permanent rail tracks running through the heart of Kitchener and Waterloo, they will quickly snap up old, derelict properties and replace them with lovely new office buildings, condo apartments, and the like, thereby redeveloping Kitchener and Waterloo while making tidy profits for themselves. We are asked to believe that these potential investors do not invest in these cities right now simply because they don’t see permanent rail tracks.
If rapid transit is actually an attempt to redevelop the cores of Kitchener and Waterloo, why should the residents of Cambridge and the four townships have their property taxes sharply increased to pay for the redevelopment, or is it only the residents of Kitchener and Waterloo who will pick up the tab?
Ellen Shields
Waterloo
Trim long commutes, by Ron Ward
- March 15, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Many at Cambridge transit session want light rail link to all three cities — March 3
One of the people interviewed in this article suggests that light rail is a great bargain for the Galt-to-University-of-Waterloo commuters even if house taxes go up $1,000 a year. Of course, he ignores the thousands of other homeowners who don’t need or want light rail and are barely meeting their tax bills now. From young families to fixed-income seniors also struggling with the bare beginnings of the promised inflation tsunami just ahead, they would unanimously suggest that it would be cheaper for him to move closer to his job or classrooms. It’s a given that governments and environmentalists would heartily agree.
Bottom line is that we all have to micro manage our way through this still very fragile economy, and the certainty of escalating borrowing and final costs of any such proposal.
Ron Ward
Waterloo
Economics will change fuel choices, by John Innanen
- March 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Waterloo Region planners and electric train supporters point out that electric trains are “the” solution for drawing motorists out of their gas-guzzling cars.
Where will the power for the electric cars come from? Will there be hundreds of windmills or solar arrays on the top of the regional council building, thus safely avoiding the inevitable Ontario Power Generation usage hike for the average consumer?
Will Ontario Power Generation burn more gasoline, coal and uranium to provide the electricity needed?
The power generation organization already is imposing rate hikes, and, in my opinion, is threatening more.
I fail to believe the logic regional planners try to use that implies motorists will not responsibly switch their vehicles from gas-guzzlers to electric or other alternatives. I believe that economics will eventually force everyone to switch from fossil fuels — not just regional transit, and probably within the same time frame as it takes to complete the electric “master plan.”
Why would regional council want to get motorists out of their electric cars or buses?
John Innanen
Kitchener
Cambridge loses, by Marion Whistance
- March 14, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Residents of Cambridge: Our money, our tax bill, Kitchener’s gain. So what’s new?
Seems to me it’s a misnomer to call us a “region.”
Marion Whistance
Cambridge
Not a good idea, by J. Edmund Kaufman
- March 11, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
After reading in this newspaper of plans for a streetcar track down King Street, the planners and consultants must be dreaming in technicolour. We just ripped up the tracks. I’ve talked to a lot of people and not one thought streetcars are a good idea and just for cost alone. All this would be done on borrowed money and not be a benefit to the rest of the region. If we got the rail line for nothing, we could not afford to operate it.
It seems anybody can build a shopping plaza to draw people from downtown and we keep spending to keep people in town. It’s time all this unnecessary spending stops.
J. Edmund Kaufman
Kitchener
Ask the people, by Glenn McNeil
- March 9, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Let the people vote: buses or trains. Allow the people of Waterloo Region to voice their opinion. With nine out of 10 options offered by the region involving trains, it would appear one-sided.
I believe buses are the answer in such a large region. Add some buses and improve services. A rail system with its huge cost will be an underused taxpayers’ burden.
Why should Cambridge pay for it? Set up polling centres and let people vote. That should be the deciding factor. Don’t let regional council decide for us.
Glenn McNeil
Kitchener
Buses are the answer, by John Reick
- March 8, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
All citizens of Waterloo Region should be treated the same. What’s good for Kitchener and Waterloo should be the same for Cambridge and the rest of the region.
We cannot afford trains from the St. Jacobs farmers’ market to Ainslie Street in Cambridge for $1.55 billion. We now have to add on trains from Elmira to St. Jacobs for about $450 million, which is the region’s fifth phase of the plan, for a total of $2 billion. If we do it now or later, we the taxpayers are on the hook for $1.5 billion with $565 million from the government.
The right solution is buses. They are flexible. The size and number of buses can be changed for the job we want done. The buses are getting better all the time for comfort, noise and gas mileage. We are already seeing electric buses without wiring hanging over the road.
Senior governments are paying up to $565 million so that we can put the rapid buses to Cambridge, Elmira and St. Jacobs and start some of the cross-town rapid bus routes we need. About 60 per cent of the 500 kilometres traffic lanes they are talking about have to be built just for the subdivisions planned over the next 10 years?
All this talk about people building businesses, houses and apartments by the tracks is only a dream . . . just like the large increase in ridership is not going to happen, when 60 per cent of the ridership is students. The student population does not increase that much every year, and I don’t see the general population going to public transportation over the next 20 years in any large numbers.
All the people who ran for public office in the last election knocked on doors and got an ear-full of “no” for trains and “yes” for buses. How many times do we have to say no?
John Reick
Waterloo
Backing a loser, by William McGregor
- March 8, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Can transit transform the region? — Feb. 26
Let us gamble with taxpayers’ money, say planners about the proposed light rail transit system. This is not a sure thing they say. The focus is on a program to uproot neighbourhoods and replace them with a ribbon of high-density buildings like Old World communities.
Actually, their primary interest is not moving people — high density is the focus of a near billion-dollar gamble. A shadow that is ignored is the similar attempt in downtown Kitchener when, a number of years ago, a transit terminal was built and nearly all bus routes were redrawn to end up there. As a renewal and densification of the five blocks around it, the investment failed. This suggests that as a gamble light rail transit is a loser.
As a long time taxpayer and participant in urban renewal, I am not against finding a way to grow our core areas. However, one could look to Waterloo’s core to see what a focused mayor (Herb Epp) brought to the downtown area, and he did it without a near billion-dollar outlay.
Kitchener’s Mayor Carl Zehr has shown similar determination in the Centre Block situation, again at reasonable cost. This Record article without glam pictures of shiny trains helped to focus the discussion.
William McGregor
Kitchener
Cambridge left out, by Ron Dowhaniuk
- March 8, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Can transit transform the region? — Feb. 26
I read with interest this article which indicated that one of the main reasons to go ahead with light rail transit was not as a people mover but rather to encourage downtown redevelopment. This is a laudable goal and the article talked about how this would encourage redevelopment by having secure transit that would increase property values.
Yet nowhere did the article mention the redevelopment benefit for the City of Cambridge. Did I miss something in the article?
Ron Dowhaniuk
Kitchener
Bottomless pit, by Gene Scissons
- March 8, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Township Mayor declares rapid transit conflict — Feb. 19
It was encouraging to read that North Dumfries Mayor Robert Deutschmann will not vote on rapid transit because the proposal is expected to increase the value of a building that he owns in downtown Kitchener that is across the street from a proposed rail station.
The next honourable step is for the remaining township representatives on regional council along with the regional chairman, to refrain from voting on this issue as their taxes, unlike residents of the tri-cities, will not be increasing to pay for this bottomless pit of expenditure.
Gene Scissons
Waterloo
Not another stupid idea, by Bob Oberholtzer
- March 8, 2011
- Waterloo Chronicle
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In the 1940s I took the electric trolley buses — from the Rockway area to KCI — which for some dumb reason were later sold to the City of Vancouver, where I understand they are still in service today. Now our not-too-smart politicians, led by Elmira’s Ken Seiling, want to operate light rail from Fairview Mall to St. Jacobs for a cost of about a billion dollars plus who knows how much we’ll lose to maintain it each year.
And he will extend this service to Elmira before Cambridge.
We, the taxpayers, cannot afford another stupid idea.
Bob Oberholtzer
Waterloo
Seek new solution, by Garnet Bruce
- March 5, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Ninety percent of people on the bus have one thing in common: they’re dreaming of the day they don’t have to ride the bus.
Trains have been around for 150 years and still have a one-track mind when it comes to sharing any right-of-way.
So what do nine of the 10 21st Century rapid transit options proposed to the region use? Buses and/or trains.
In a region with private sector ingenuity from the likes of RIM, and with creative municipal leaders who (with stormwater management fees) have discovered how to tax rain, why should we have to settle for solutions that are over a century old?
There is an alternative conceived in China which deserves more consideration because it offers the benefits of both trains and buses without many of the drawbacks. Unfortunately, the Chinese have not yet mastered the art of the sizzle, and insist on calling this thing the “straddling bus.” Adding the word “straddling” to the word “bus” isn’t exactly putting lipstick on the pig and sure isn’t going to entice people to slap down half a billion dollars to build something that sounds vaguely uncomfortable at best. But the potential is there, and deserves to be looked at by people with a 21st Century perspective.
Garnet Bruce
Waterloo
Cambridge off the track, by Tom Aitchison
- March 4, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Can transit transform the region? — Feb. 26
I read this article and was really impressed with the anticipated benefits of light rail transit. The article explained how a light rail system could transform and revive entire neighbourhoods, such as the one around the intersection of King and Ottawa streets in Kitchener. The article imagined this “formerly bleak” intersection becoming “a lively urban village” and added, “This is the intended purpose of rail transit.”
I live in Cambridge, and would like to ask Waterloo regional councillors how fast buses will transform the region’s second largest city.
If fast buses don’t offer the same benefits as light rail, maybe we in Cambridge shouldn’t have to share in the cost for the light rail transit.
Tom Aitchison
Cambridge
Seek transit options, by John Mladek
- March 4, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Can transit transform the region? — Feb. 26
Upon reading this article, one thing is for sure: The government of Waterloo Region is not really too interested in creating the efficient and economical rapid transit system people of this region are looking for and our senior governments have given us money for. Instead, it is a way for us to attract redevelopment into the downtown areas. Would it work? Yes, no and maybe say the planners. What a professional answer to a project that might cost close to a billion dollars. What a high-roller gamble.
Surely they know about Plan B: Better buses instead of glorified street cars. As far as I remember, there are studies clearly showing that buses would do much better job, economically and more efficiently. We are respectfully asked to go to meetings to talk and provide our input. But they have provided options dealing practically only with a light rail system, with options for buses that are half-cooked and do nothing.
In a project of this magnitude all cards must be on the table for any discussion to have any meaning. There must be other ways to achieve some improvement in a downtown core to attract investors without this $1-billon gamble.
John Mladek
Kitchener
We’re not a hub city, by Gordon Hanna
- March 2, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Riding the rails — Feb. 19
Comparing Waterloo Region with Buffalo, Edmonton and Calgary, is like comparing Toronto with New York City, Tokyo and Beijing. Buffalo, Calgary, and Edmonton are regional hubs and they each have a metropolitan population of over one million. None of this is true of Waterloo Region. We are three cities with a combined population of about 500,000 residents in the shadow of Toronto. It would be more beneficial to compare the region with other southern Ontario cities such as London, Hamilton and Windsor, which are similar in population size and regional importance. Interestingly, they only have city buses as well.
Does our regional council have a skewed view of the importance, dynamic, and nature of the tri-cities?
Gordon Hanna
Cambridge
Think smaller, by Sylvia Lusted
- March 2, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Waterloo Region wants to spend almost $1 billion putting in train tracks down King Street that can be used only by rapid trains. I would think it would only take about a minute for a train to go down a block. If it runs every 15 minutes, this means this very expensive roadway will be used only four minutes in every hour, and for the 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. period, only a total of 48 minutes. Buses and cars would use the roadway continuously.
Also, how will there be room for cars to pull over when an ambulance or fire truck has to go down King Street? The one lane left to cars each way will probably be bumper-to-bumper a lot of the time.
A better use for one lane of the street in the next coming years would be to dedicate it to very small electric and gasoline cars, bicycles, and other small modes of transportation. These vehicles would take a lot less room parking as well.
Sylvia Lusted
Waterloo
Transit plan is wrong, by Edith Blanchette
- March 1, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Municipal fireworks — Feb. 16
As a senior living in Cambridge, I do not believe any taxpayer in this city should be footing the bill for light rail transit for Waterloo and Kitchener. The residents of the townships who cannot use it do not have to pay, so why should people in Cambridge, who also will not have the rail system to use, have to pay?
One of the rapid transit options being considered by Waterloo Region has the rail system starting in St. Jacobs and running to Ainslie Street in Cambridge. But it was the most expensive proposal and the only one giving the rail system to Cambridge. Why is it starting from St. Jacobs? Why not Fairview Park mall? Let Waterloo do without and they can pay for it like they want Cambridge to do for them. Give Waterloo a rapid bus system from Fairview mall.
Our taxes are too high now. Seniors are having a difficult enough time trying to pay their property taxes, heat their homes and pay for their hydro and water, etc., and with the HST on all our products and services, this is the last straw.
I’m sure there are many people in Waterloo and Kitchener in the same position that cannot afford any more taxes either. A more flexible bus system would be better.
Edith Blanchette
Cambridge
Rails can wait, by Wanda Hoffman
- February 25, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I see many comments for and against light rail transit. Every bus I see after the peak hours is running around town with two or three passengers, which is very expensive. Other than peak periods (school hours and drive time home hours), these buses are pretty much empty. Have a look the next time you see a bus between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. I am in the University Avenue area, which is a student area, and this is what I have observed over the last few months.
I am not particularly in favour of light rail transit; I would never use it. I don’t see a need for it — we don’t appear to be maximizing ridership on our current transit system so why even consider light rail transit?
I also noted that regional council proposes a fare hike in their 2011 budget to cover costs of 19 new buses, and additional staff. Why don’t we take the buses that are not running at capacity and move them to the new routes or restructure the current routes?
I believe light rail transit needs to wait for awhile until ridership is at full capacity on all buses and until we can afford it. Let’s not write the cheque until we can afford to do so.
Wanda Hoffman
Waterloo
Taxpayers railroaded, by Bob Schulte
- February 25, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: 10 rapid transit options revealed — Feb. 15
This front page article was clearly a snub to the vast number of regional taxpayers who disagree with any form of light rail transit bisecting our cities. It is becoming clear that the strategy of Waterloo regional council was to tone down their agenda for a while, and then embark on a biased “educational program” to convince taxpayers that their grandiose vision should take priority over the prudent wishes of those who elected them.
And then there is the red herring about federal and provincial funding, which also comes out of our taxes. It’s not free money. Any position can be supported by self-serving statistics. The taxpayers of the region are truly being “railroaded” by our elected officials, concerning the most ludicrous project in the history of our region.
Bob Schulte
Kitchener
Not much of a choice, by Bill Gibson
- February 24, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The ongoing debate around the local transportation system reminds me of an old Monty Python sketch; the one in a café. The menu selection is spam and beans, beans and spam, spam with beans and beans, beans with spam and spam, etc. Either way you get spam and beans. The transportation committee’s recommendation looks to me like trains with buses, buses with trains or trains with buses and buses. Either way you get trains with buses.
I think Cambridge Mayor Doug Craig has it correct when he suggests there may be a bias, but this does seem to be a bit more than bias and more like a determined effort to direct the decision to only a train and bus alternative to the councils.
In addition to the alternative offered, there is the promise of increases in property values if you own property near the tracks or stations. One mayor has already recused himself because he owns a property which could be affected, but what about the property tax increase to a senior citizen receing a pension and old age security who happens to live near a station? The cities are already looking to glean extra income to support their increased spending, and with the higher electricity costs, increased sales tax, and storm water fees, where do our seniors glean this increase?
As a point of interest, the current maximum combined Canada Pension Plan and Old Age Security payments are $1,484.23 per month, approximately $8.56 per hour based on a 40-hour week, less than the minimum wage in Ontario of $10.25. According to Service Canada, the average pension income in 2010 was $994.97 per month, or $5.74 per hour based on a 40-hour week. My pension increase in January was 1.23 per cent — let’s see local government match this.
Bill Gibson
Waterloo
An expense not worth time or money, by E.D. Blanchette
- February 23, 2011
- Cambridge Times
As a senior in the city of Cambridge, I do not believe any taxpayer in Cambridge should be footing the bill for LRT for Waterloo and Kitchener.
The townships who cannot use it do not have to pay, so why should Cambridge, who also will not have the rail system to use? The only proposal for Cambridge had the rail system starting in St. Jacobs to Ainslie Street. It was the most expensive proposal and the only one giving the rail system to Cambridge. Why is it starting from St Jacobs? Why not Fairview Mall?
Let Waterloo do without and they can pay for it like they want Cambridge to do for them! Give Waterloo a rapid bus system from Fairview Mall. Who would have the Cinderella syndrome then?
Our taxes are too high now. Seniors are having a difficult enough time trying to pay their property taxes, heat their homes and pay for their hydro and water, etc., and with the HST on all our products and services, this is the last straw! I’m sure there are many people in Waterloo and Kitchener in the same position that cannot afford any more taxes either. A more flexible bus system would be better!
There was a rail system going through Cambridge to Kitchener years ago and it was taken out, I believe, due to the love of the automobile and its convenience. Many people are not going to abandon their auto for the inconvenience and time-consuming ride on the LRT.
I doubt the people proposing this LRT system will ever ride on it except for a photo op!
E.D. Blanchette
Cambridge
Choice is ours, by Alfred Rempel
- February 23, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I am almost giddy with excitement. The region will re-evaluate our rapid transit options. We get to choose whether to paint the trains red, yellow or black.
Alfred Rempel
Kitchener
This council is biased, by Don Snider
- February 23, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: 10 rapid transit options revealed — Feb 15
It appears that Waterloo regional Chair Ken Seiling and regional council are determined to push the light rail transit through regardless of what the taxpayers of the region want.
I think it is very clear that they want a light rail and nothing else when you look at the front page of the Feb. 15 Record. They showed 11 options, and of those 11 only two did not include a light rail component. They showed the expected annual ridership and tax increase for every one except they omitted ridership from the No Rapid Transit as they called it. And then if you look at the expected tax increases for each option, the cost for this one, $500 million, is $150 a year and the cost for an $818 million option is $136 a year. This to me does not add up or make sense.
Based on what I read, the regional council has proven that they are biased, and their egos will not allow them to at least look at other options in a fair and impartial way.
Don Snider
Kitchener
Improve bus service, by Tad Pecak
- February 18, 2011
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Re: Can light rail plans survive a second opinion? — Feb. 10
Columnist Peter Shawn Taylor deserves high praise for such an informative report. It is hoped that Waterloo regional Chair Ken Seiling and his planners read, take note, digest, and heed its advice. As well, they must not disregard the recent report of John Shortreed, the professor emeritus of civil engineering at the University of Waterloo.
It is obvious that the individuals who push for the light rail, supported by Seiling, who will most likely never use it, do not care about viability, or who pays for the light rail as long as they get the job. Shouldn’t Seiling, with his council, have thought of it at the beginning of his long service as chair? Then the project not only would have been much cheaper, it might have prevented the sprawl and maybe, just maybe, become more viable?
In the continuing sprawling environment, taxpayers living in the far out subdivisions will continue using cars, and improved bus service and the planned light rail transit cars will be running half empty. It definitely will be a huge stone around taxpayers’ necks for years to come.
Use our money wisely, stop sprawl, improve bus service and forget about light rail transit. It is much too late.
Tad Pecak
Kitchener
Cambridge neglected, by Diana Esmits
- February 18, 2011
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Re: 10 rapid transit options revealed — Feb. 15
One can certainly see the bias of Waterloo regional council against Cambridge. Of the 10 proposals, only one offers trains to include Cambridge, and that is the most expensive, with trains originating at the St. Jacobs Farmers’ Market. Why was the plan with trains originating at Conestoga Mall to run to Ainslie Street in Cambridge not mentioned?
Cambridge always seems to be left out of the mix. Cambridge is part of the Region of Waterloo. It is only fair to treat the region’s three cities the same, as we will all have to shoulder the burden of the tax increases. There is no way the people of Cambridge should have to share in the very high taxes necessary to support rail transit in the region if we are only getting fast buses driving in mixed traffic into Cambridge. Just how fast are they really going to be? Shame on regional council.
Diana Esmits
Cambridge
Buses don’t meet needs, by Dick Miller
- February 17, 2011
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Re: Money-saving tip — Feb. 12
How dare letter writer Jeff Spilger tell people who are cash strapped to sell one of their vehicles and use public transit. Maybe these people need two vehicles to get to work and back home. I don’t know if Spilger, who lives in Alberta, ever rode on the buses in Kitchener, but here it takes a long time to go from point A to point B on Grand River Transit. As for price hikes to park downtown, we could all see that coming.
We don’t need light rail. Light rail would be the same as it is for the buses.
If we have that kind of money, we should fix the roads and the sidewalks. If they go ahead with light rail we will see more people on the street who can’t pay higher taxes.
Dick Miller
Kitchener
Where’s the value?, by Glenda Ribey Rozomiak
- February 10, 2011
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Re: Barnraisers boost rapid-transit — Jan. 25
According to this article, “University students can live near their Waterloo campuses for four years and the vast majority never takes in live shows in downtown Kitchener.”
I have lived in Waterloo my entire life and until I read this article I had not heard of the Conrad Centre for the Performing Arts, or the Registry Theatre. I have been to Centre in the Square less than 10 times in my life. I am pretty sure it is not the lack of public transit that makes me want to visit these places. Perhaps these venues should have higher visibility to draw a bigger crowd to Kitchener. It’s hard to believe the Barnraisers would want to base their decision regarding light rail transit on university students who come and go rather than on permanent residents.
Rail transit seems like another white elephant for Waterloo. I love living here but the idea of spending over $800 million for a transit system makes me want to move to a more intelligent city. I’m not sure how the people of this region can afford to pay more taxes on a system that may not be valuable to our city.
Councillors and regional chairpeople need to start listening to the people of Waterloo Region. I would have liked to vote on the transit issue at election time. It is time for the people of Waterloo Region to stand up and have their voices heard.
Glenda Ribey Rozomiak
Waterloo
Consider the variables, by Ed Redgwell
- February 8, 2011
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
With so much division about the need for light rail transit in our region, and its cost, both Waterloo Region Chair Ken Seiling and Kitchener Mayor Carl Zehr have shown no leadership in this matter. They have only stated that we need it because of the future growth in our region.
But when will it be needed? If we go ahead now it would need most of its riders to come from the suburbs, so how rapid would a connection be made to the city cores, and during what hours would it run? What is the rider cost? It must be self supporting.
Then there are the variables — shift workers, flex-hour workers, and those who will use it only in the winter. We do encourage the use of bike trails.
Until this is laid out so that taxpayers have faith in it and we have data showing its potential use, we are putting the cart before the horse, and then we will have a white elephant.
Ed Redgwell
Kitchener
Let’s vote on it, by Clarence Beintema
- February 4, 2011
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Re: Barnraisers boost rapid-transit — Jan. 25
Almost daily we continue to read stories about Ken Seiling’s railway. This story on the Barnraisers’ Council support of the project was laughable.
The story had more unknowns regarding the costs than there were knowns. The term “about” was used throughout the story. It makes me wonder how Tim Jackson could put his name to something like this.
I think that before spending “about” $1 billion in taxes this plan should be put to a binding vote by the citizens of Waterloo Region.
Clarence Beintema
Kitchener
We’ll need more water, by Gerard Dick
- February 4, 2011
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Re: I find it interesting that pundits have forecast a level of population growth that would see us at 750,000 by 2031. This is, after all, the reasoning behind the so-called need for a train through Kitchener and Waterloo.
We already have water rationing in place, although I know the politically correct term is lawn watering restrictions. It remains clear, however, that limiting access to a commodity that one could otherwise afford to buy is rationing is it not? How then, are we going to deal with the water needs of a population more than half again larger than it is now? Has anyone thought about this?
Population growth in the region is going to hit a wall. Farsighted Politicians should be looking a building a pipeline to bring in water instead of a rail line the people will not use.
Gerard Dick
Kitchener
Think about issues, by Tom Fitzsimmons
- February 3, 2011
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In the past few days, there have been some excellent letters to the editor; some expressing unwavering support for light rail transit, others suggesting a thorough and logical review of our real needs and options.
A common thread throughout the letters from the diehard light rail supporters is that they are totally void of any specifics to support their argument for streetcars as the way forward. It seems to be more about the environment and avoiding road-building. Those folks need to step back for a second and have a look at the numbers. Published data indicates that less than five per cent of our population takes public transit — maybe one per cent uses the King Street route that the streetcar tracks will follow; that number might go up to two per cent if the downtown core fills up as our politicians are hoping.
The question that the dreamy-eyed supporters are not asking themselves is how will the remaining 98 per cent of the population get around? Now and in the future, roads will always be needed for pedestrians, strollers, bicycles, school buses, cars and public transit.
Supporters both for and against light rail need to think about questions like that when they discuss the issues with our local politicians.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
What do we need? by Hans-Armin Ohlmann
- January 31, 2011
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In trying to decide whether we should develop a light rail transit system or rapid bus system in Waterloo Region we had better take a look at what our three-city area really needs.
Given the structure of the space we live in, with mostly low density housing and jobs equally spread all over the place, and given that the main challenge of mass commuting is hauling people to and from their jobs every day, and shoppers to the malls and home again, we need a flexible system with buses. No system moving on tracks can be economically built with the necessary tight grid so that walking to the next station would be acceptable, not taking more than five minutes.
If it requires more time, people would still hop into their cars. This single, simple fact should kill the light rail thing in its very tracks, because it would serve only about five per cent of our commuters with their everyday demands.
This bus system should retain its existing main arteries, with the big buses, somewhat modified, retraced and rescheduled, to harmonize it with the next lower level of smaller buses, still running on fixed routes and schedules in a tighter grid. At the bottom level, the system would have minibuses on demand and neighbourhood car pools, feeding into the upper level systems. Thus, everybody could step into and get off a transport vehicle almost on their doorsteps, or only a few minutes away.
This multilayer busing system would offer the necessary flexibility with regard to adjustments of routes and schedules, and propulsion technology as well, running on gasoline, diesel, ethanol, hybrid drives, electricity, whatever evolves as the most economical and environmental friendly method over the next years. It can be kept up to snuff all the time by the “natural attrition.” So, continuous modernization would not cost us extra money.
Of course, lots of problems will have to be solved for such a system, such as programming its schedules, liability insurance, or a practical fare calculation and payment concept, to mention only a few, but do we not live in one of the smartest communities on the globe? Landing men on the moon 40 years ago certainly was much more of a challenge, I guess.
Hans-Armin Ohlmann
Ayr
We will survive, by Mary Pooley-Brodt
- January 29, 2011
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Waterloo Regional Chair Ken Seiling has been quoted in The Record saying Waterloo Region is doomed if we do not go ahead with the proposed light rail transit system.
Does he know something the rest of us don’t? Or is this simply political rhetoric, or the arrogant bellows of another doomsayer: Chicken Little.
Mary Pooley-Brodt
Kitchener
Buses have potential, by Russell Rodrigo
- January 28, 2011
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Re: Barnraisers boost rapid-transit — Jan. 25
The Barnraisers’ Council has spoken: “No money for buses,” the oracle declares. Surveys and interviews with debt-ridden undergraduates in Waterloo reveal that not having experienced the bright lights of downtown Kitchener, they will leave town with a slanted view of Waterloo Region. If only we had a train down King Street all would be well.
Next, we hear that the “best and brightest” have a mystical attraction to an unspecified “proper rapid transit project.” This is good to know because it means that the barnraisers, definitely the best and brightest in the region, will join the throngs of commuters on the streetcars traversing our main street.
The fourth leg of the stool, in this attempt to stampede the population, is the speculative statement, often repeated, that if this streetcar line is not built, we will need 500-lane-kilometres of new roads for a cumulative expense of $1.5 billion. Finally, we understand what a great bargain we are being offered at $790 million by this proposal. For the 729,000 residents expected by 2031, the need for new roads magically vanishes. It is truly an offer we cannot refuse, and if we are foolish enough to do so we will all “be doomed.”
Unfortunately, this type of “visionary” campaign is all too familiar to residents of Waterloo. This city supported north-south rapid transit, having previously approved development projects on the west side. The residents of the region also deserve better. We must openly evaluate all options, including a careful consideration of the flexibility of bus transit and the possibility of improved hybrid and electric propulsion systems, before sinking $800 million into King Street in one irreversible action.
Russell Rodrigo
Waterloo
People have spoken, by M. Carl Kaufman
- January 27, 2011
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I assumed that politicians were elected to represent us, not to tell us what to do.
It was very interesting to read that Waterloo city council was reported as deciding that, as voters turned down the fluoridation of water and amalgamation talks with Kitchener in referendums, they should go along with the citizens’ wishes.
Candidates for all councils have learned that the citizens did not want light rail transit for Waterloo Region. Isn’t that clear enough?
Other cities with streetcar tracks have streets that are many times wider than King Street. Those streetcars have dedicated routes and run at high speeds. This would not be possible on Kitchener and Waterloo streets which were not designed to accommodate tracks and car traffic.
Streetcars can be blocked by fires, accidents, broken water lines and underground troubles. As well, the overhead wires are unsightly and can cause problems. Why don’t we stay with buses which are less expensive and far more flexible?
Anyone who uses public transit in this region has noticed how empty the present buses are during any school or university break. No wonder it is the students who are most vocal in support of a light rail transit system. With streetcars running down King Street, students who use the east-west routes will still be using buses.
Let’s improve our bus system: more buses on busy routes, smaller buses on quieter routes and in the evenings, more and better maintained shelters, and a reasonable fare structure.
M. Carl Kaufman
Waterloo
Transit models utopian, by Ingrid Sienerth
- January 26, 2011
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Re: Rail system is best — Jan. 22
Before we jump on board the light rail transit bandwagon, local taxpayers deserve openness and transparency from Waterloo regional council in regard to projected tax increases for the current plan, including the $235 million funding shortfall, and operating costs. Add that on top of the possible $200 proposed increase to taxpayers for the City of Kitchener’s 2011 operating budget if cost cuts aren’t achieved.
Why should taxpayers buy what we don’t know what’s being sold to us?
The light rail system in Melbourne, Australia, is supported by a population base of about 4.5 million people making letter writer John Hagey’s example seem utopian, as are some of the models used for the light rail transit studies. The combined population of Kitchener, Cambridge and Waterloo is about 500,000 residents.
We need to elevate the status of our current transit system to make it a pleasant, viable option to increase ridership. Also, new subdivisions, including those near Ira Needles Boulevard, have no bus service, while other areas have limited coverage and overcrowded buses on routes near schools.
How many city and regional employees who work downtown use public transit as a model for light rail transit ridership?
Regional Chair Ken Seiling believes our community is doomed without light rail transit. With light rail, taxpayers will be doomed to pay spiralling budget overruns and expansion costs for this one-trick pony.
Ingrid Sienerth
Kitchener
Buses just make sense, by Nicholas Ermeta
- Jan 24, 2011
- Cambridge Times
This is a copy of a letter sent to Waterloo Regional Chair Ken Seiling and regional councillors.
As the ward councillor for the North Galt area of Cambridge, an overwhelming number of my constituents have urged me to speak out against the Light Rail Transit (LRT) on their behalf.
You may be interested to know that during the election campaign when I knocked on more than 5,000 doors, more than three quarters of the residents were in huge opposition to the proposal.
In fact, most residents brought the issue up on their own, which goes to show how upset they are. I have also received much opposition from residents in other parts of the city.
You claim that the LRT is necessary to attract development to the downtown cores. However, I argue that intensification is sure to happen whether or not the LRT is built. A “countryside line” is in place to control urban sprawl. The Ontario Places to Grow Act also mandates 40 per cent intensification in urban areas and sets certain density targets that must be met.
LRT also requires a very high density to be financially viable and if that level of density doesn’t occur then this presents a huge risk to the taxpayer. Also, keep in mind that although residents support more intensification, they don’t want too much density since many of them moved here to get away from Toronto.
Buses are more flexible than LRT. If there is a car accident or watermain break, the bus can be re-routed temporarily until the problem is fixed. Although investors might be concerned bus routes can be changed, they should note that if there is a significant amount of people who travel along a certain corridor it makes no sense to change the route since there is a huge demand for it.
Technology has also allowed us to create buses that have a similar look and feel of trains. The York Region VIVA buses have comfortable seating and tables for laptops.
As far as capacity is concerned, there are double-decker buses and articulated buses which have room for a greater number of passengers than regular buses. There are even double-decker articulate buses which can be considered.
I also find it interesting that you argue that trains are better than buses, yet you have no problem with giving buses to Cambridge. If buses are good for Cambridge, then they are good enough for the rest of the region as well. Residents here feel like third class citizens and are fed up with the lack of fairness, especially since we’re the second largest city in the region.
The LRT costs to all regional taxpayers will be significant because the operating costs – which will be $23 million a year – and the capital costs will exceed projected estimates.
Hardworking taxpayers think it is ridiculous the region is contemplating a proposal that costs three quarters of a billion dollars between Kitchener and Waterloo, when the Go train between Milton and Cambridge (a much greater distance) would cost less than $200 million. It is clear that the LRT is unsustainable and should be derailed.
What people have been requesting to me is Bus Rapid Transit on a dedicated bus lane through the Central Transit Corridor in conjunction to more IXpress buses across the region. Residents would also like GO train service to Milton since they are much more likely to take a train to the GTA than to Waterloo.
Overall, they want a more cost effective plan that is fair and equitable to everyone since we all pay into it.
Nicholas Ermeta
Cambridge City Councillor, Ward 8
Buses should be better, by Scott Ruddick
- January 20, 2011
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Re: Transit in K-W Not An Attractive Option For Commuters
As someone who recently moved to Kitchener and has been taking Grand River Transit, I have been following the recent articles in The Record on the future of transit with great interest. Unfortunately, I’ve found the transit experience here to be sub par. Grand River Transit is not providing a viable commuter transit system and it’s time for some new thinking and innovation.
I see very few commuters on the system. Most of the riders are students. The business model seems to be to provide heavily subsidized school transit passes to students to build ridership, but this is not sustainable — it starves the system of capital. Buses are filled past capacity, and provide an uncomfortable and far-too-long trip. The students’ first experience with transit is not positive, and this does nothing to build a positive image among future riders.
Grand River Transit needs to build a transit system for the commuter who has options. It can be done. We only have look to transit systems that have built sustainable and thriving commuter bus networks catering to the commuter, such as Viva Transit in York Region and Zum in Brampton, among others, to see how. They offer comfortable buses with amenities. Viva has coach seating, heated bus shelters and wifi, while Zum buses provide plush, high-back seats, skylights, and laptop plug-ins. As well, they offer a variety of fare payment options — a weekly pass would be a great start in providing some flexibility — and enough service to attract choice riders to make the system sustainable.
There is, frankly, no excuse for the lack of progress and innovation in transit in Waterloo Region. Better routing, better equipment, and a more flexible fare media could go a long way to creating a viable commuter transit system that offers a practical alternative to the personal car. It has been done elsewhere, and it can be done here.
Scott Ruddick
Kitchener
Full debate on rapid transit urgently needed, by John Runstedtler
- January 19, 2011
- Kitchener Citizen
The need for efficient, affordable rapid transit is undeniable. The debate is whether we choose express buses or Light Rail Transit (LRT), not more expressways for cars.
On September 3, Waterloo Regional Record editors called for “a full, frank, productive debate” to begin, with “all viable options considered.”
During municipal election campaigning, the only frank discussions occurred at the door, where angry voters told candidates they did not want LRT. A full debate is urgently needed now. The broad outlines of Dr. John Shortreed’s Express Bus solution (Record Dec. 22) was a good start, but only a start.
Newspapers in the region could provide a written forum for this discussion. A section comparing merits of LRT vs. Articulated Express Buses should be published very soon. The public needs fact-based details from transit specialists. Points of comparison could include: realistic capital and operating costs, fare box revenues, land use intensification, carrying capacity, speed of trips, system flexibility and reliability, and environmental issues.
Two men, who have been involved in urban planning and land use in many major cities, live here in Waterloo. They could present in detail their reasons for or against LRT.
Dr. John Shortreed, U of W, favours express buses and Dr. Jeff Casello, U of W, supports LRT.
Regional engineers should also disclose in detail their criteria – financial and engineering – for selecting LRT.
Readers need detailed maps for both proposals showing routes, stations, stops, grade-separations and vehicle storage barns.
Radio and TV stations in Waterloo Region can promote informed discussions on their talk shows. A knowledgeable public must make its voice heard in advance of regional council’s final decision (coming up soon) on LRT vs. Express Buses.
Regional council needs to postpone the LRT vote until April allowing people time to respond.
A rushed vote on LRT could lead to a wrong choice of transit system, a massive debt for taxpayers and a bitter legacy for regional councilors.
John Runstedtler
Kitchener
Service would be worse, by Jordan Moar
- January 3, 2011
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Waterloo regional council is debating spending almost $800 million on light rail transit. An ordinary bus costs about $500,000. For $800 million we could have 1,600 buses to enhance our transit system. If Record readers, or Ken Seiling, think that light rail transit could improve our transit system as much as 1,600 buses they are dreaming.
The light rail system that Waterloo regional Chair Seiling proposes would have less than one quarter the number of stops than the bus system already has. And whereas buses now run down King Street once every seven minutes and every eight minutes in alternation, the light rail system would almost certainly run less frequently.
In other words, Seiling proposes to spend almost $800 million (which is an awful lot of money) to give us worse service than our bus system.
Jordan Moar
Waterloo
Learn from mistakes, by John Schatz
- December 30, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Enough of this nonsense about light rail transit. We do not need it, the majority of people who will pay for it will not use it, and plain and simple, we cannot afford it.
Students and other proponents of light rail transit don’t even live in, or worse yet, do not pay taxes in the region. Cambridge Mayor Doug Craig is smart in opposing another white elephant project.
Consider that the federal government contribution of $565 million, plus $235 million, from local taxes is $800 million. An estimate of nine per cent in regional tax increases is ridiculous. It is a fact that the actual cost would be double or triple that amount. Who pays for the government’s contribution? The taxpayers with taxes on top of more taxes.
Listen to Kitchener Coun. John Gazzola and Craig, not Kitchener Mayor Carl Zehr. He is out of touch with reality.
We have been hit by a recession and these people think they can spend their way out of it. Unemployment is high. We need jobs not light rail transit.
The rapid bus transit system is a better alternative. No more white elephants. Learn from our mistakes, and the Kitchener farmers market is one of many.
John Schatz
Kitchener
The region needs a subway line, by Howard Bonnell
- December 28, 2010
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Re: Cambridge mayor makes his move to stop rail transit plan — Dec. 24
From what I’ve been hearing throughout our community, it would appear that some of our local politicians already have taken the proposed light rail transit system to the next stage.
Their “we-know-what’s-best” attitude needs the wake-up call that Cambridge Major Craig and his supporters are now calling for.
It is obvious to many that we are heading down the wrong path. We hear of how we should be creating higher density in our downtown cores to cut down on urban sprawl, which will also create more business opportunities.
Those of us old enough to remember the original King Street train tracks and the later trolley service can recall the problematic issues that resulted in their demise. Those now in favour of light rail are too young to remember these issues and are, therefore, now leading us back into the past.
The issues I speak of included dangerous, uneven train tracks that caught bicycle wheels, created a pedestrian hazard, ugly overhead wires and unkept weathered pavement. They also held up traffic and took up unnecessary space.
Money, or rather the lack of it, has clouded what is really required to meet this area’s future need. I have yet to hear an argument for a main subway line that could eventually run from Elmira to Cambridge. This plan could be implemented in stages as our region grew. We would then have room for even more businesses underground (think of downtown Toronto) while keeping our more attractive main streets open for parades, festivals and open-air concepts without disruption. This is the real future solution in my opinion that will eventually become necessary anyway.
If we are going to be spending big bucks, let’s start by spending them wisely on something that actually meets our future needs and on something everyone can be proud of in the long run.
Howard Bonnell
Kitchener
Alarmist statement, by Larry Haworth
- December 16, 2010
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Re: Light rail: ‘A failure to move forward will doom us’ – Dec. 11
Waterloo regional Chair Ken Seiling says that “A failure to move forward (with the ‘light rail’ project) will doom us.” This is alarmist in the extreme.
Seiling knows as well as anyone that the alternatives are trains or rapid buses, not trains or doing nothing. It is an honest debate and sensible things have been said in support of both alternatives. Trains will certainly run faster. On the other hand, any sensible version of the rapid bus alternative will cost less and provide a more flexible transit system. For example, if the claim that trains will be underutilized proved true there would be nothing we could do other than watch empty trains racing up and down King Street. If a similar problem arose with rapid buses, assuming they were not running on rails, we could adapt without paying a huge price.
To suggest that adopting buses rather than trains will bring “doom” is ludicrous. Ordinarily, Seiling comes across as a very competent administrator. In this present debate we are not seeing him at his best.
Larry Haworth
St. Agatha
Stick with the buses, by Tom Poole
- December 17, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Let me suggest that Waterloo Region stick with the buses it has now and do what is necessary to improve the service. Just think of the amount of money that would be saved and the little disruption in service.
We have accountability, transparency and sustainability, all nice things to have; but there is one thing missing that is important, and that is flexibility.
If for any reason the streets have to be closed off by an accident, fire, construction, then the light rail service would have to be shut down — while buses could be rerouted in any direction and still able to give, at the worst, adequate service.
Tom Poole
Kitchener
Not the right choice, by Alfred Rempel
- December 13, 2010
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Re: Hundreds rally for light-rail transit — Dec. 6
Kitchener Mayor Carl Zehr and Waterloo Regional Chair Ken Seiling attended the pep rally in Waterloo with their soapbox to sell their dream of a transit system that runs on rails. Meanwhile, John Shortreed was handing out flyers in the audience about the many reasons why a light rail transit system is the wrong choice.
What we need is not a sales job, but a clear understanding of the criteria used to evaluate the light rail proposal.
Shortreed has taught urban planning, transportation planning, transit planning and operations, economics, statistics, and land use models at the University of Waterloo. He has helped write the Canadian Urban Transit Association Canadian Transit Handbook. He has been involved in transit planning around the world.
We should take notice when a professor of his stature finds serious flaws in the transit proposal.
Shortreed has argued the case very well, before regional council and at many community meetings, that light rail transit will be a big white elephant. It is not the answer for us now, and won’t be the right transit choice for Waterloo Region for at least 50 years to come.
Alfred Rempel
Kitchener
A polarizing point, by Chris Woroch
- Dec. 2, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Tim Mollison and the Tricities Transport Action Group are having a pro-light rail transit rally for a show of support in contrast to the “negativity” of those who hold to an anti-light rail tranist position. Using a word like “negativity” to describe those who are against light is misleading and polarizing.
Everyone in Waterloo Region would agree that transit initiatives are in order that we may do what is necessary to alleviate the burden of traffic caused by poor planning, lack of foresight, and misguided priorities by our regional government.
But the means of correction is where we differ. I believe an extremely costly light rail system is simply not enough to deal with the traffic issues. There are other things we could be doing and should have been doing, which are less costly. For what we will be paying, it simply doesn’t go far enough. In other words, a poor return on our investment.
And with all due respect to students who will be a part of this rally, especially university students, while their opinion is to be noted and respected, the majority of them are not long-standing residents of the region. Most will not live here and pay the taxes required for the light rail system once they complete their education.
Just because you hold an opposing point of view does not make you negative. It simply makes you opposed. I would prefer words like prudent, fiscally responsible and sensible.
At the end of the day, Mollison is not negative nor am I. We have our convictions and we simply agree to disagree.
However, if “negativity” is the word to be used in relation to those who oppose light rail, then we have an extremely large amount of it in the region, which, in election terms would constitute a “majority”.
Chris Woroch
Kitchener
Buy more buses, by Melanie Barrett
- November 30, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Write out one million a thousand times and you have one billion. There is a better way to spend what I suspect will end up being $1 billion than on a slow train that runs up and down main street, and connects nothing but shopping malls.
For $10 million, Grand River Transit could buy 20 hybrid buses, and make them high-speed people movers like the iXpress, and still leave millions for other projects. How will a shopping mall train help regular people get to work, or anywhere else for that matter? The fact that the closest bus stop to the Waterloo Recreation Complex is a 20-minute walk away, and the new library being built at the top end of Fischer-Hallman Road is nowhere near accessible transit options shows what needs to be done.
There are better and more environmentally appropriate ways to spend that sort of cash.
Melanie Barrett
Waterloo
Choice is obvious, by Vivienne Evans
- November 22, 2010
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Re: Parking garage behind schedule —Nov. 15
After reading this article about the new parking garage in downtown Kitchener, I asked my husband: Which do you think will be the “white elephant,” the $15.3-million dollar parking garage which people will use after driving from the suburbs to shop or work downtown or the $780-million light rail transit system that people will use after first driving to Conestoga or Fairview mall to park their car and then travel to downtown Kitchener to shop or work?
It’s my bet that once in a car people will continue to their destination in the downtown area and park the car in a designated lot.
Do people think Waterloo regional Chair Ken Seiling will park his car at Conestoga Mall and ride the light rail transit to downtown? My feeling is that he will be like the rest of us and remain in the car and park in downtown Kitchener.
We had the chance to elect someone to regional council who is familiar with transit and we failed to do that. Are we all going to pay for that mistake through our wallets?
Vivienne Evans
Kitchener
It won’t pay for itself, by Tom Fulmer
- November 11, 2010
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The city of Waterloo was once labeled the smartest in the world. Whatever calculation was used to arrive at that conclusion seems not to have addressed a basic grasp of math or economics. Can the supporters of a light rail transit system — or, in fact, any public transit system — point out any one in the world that pays for itself with revenues from ridership and advertising.
The fact is that the taxpayers will be pay every cent of the supposed $800-million estimated cost of this monster. Whether the money is coming from the federal, provincial or regional government, it’s all tax money. We will also pay every cent of the inevitable cost overruns and cover the revenue shortfalls of this system in perpetuity. These are facts that I never see addressed by supporters of this system.
While public transit is obviously necessary, an overpriced system that connects two shopping malls by intruding upon streets that are already barely wide enough to accommodate vehicle traffic that is not going to go away is not.
Tom Fulmer
Kitchener
Strive to remain small, by Jan Narveson
- November 10, 2010
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Re: Think Big: Waterloo Region faces major decisions as it becomes ‘a really big city’ — Nov. 3
Once more unto the breech in aid of my long-suffering fellow citizens. “Think BIG” — says this Record headline.
And, yup — you guessed it, folks! Another thinly disguised piece of propaganda for the light rail transit system. Hey, guess what: the biggest cities — London, New York, Paris — do not have light rail transit systems. They have subways for intracity travel. Some medium-sized cities, such as Phoenix, Arizona, have light rail transit systems in streets about the width of a football field, at a subsidy of $2 for every dollar spent by customers, and go in a straight line.
Kitchener and Waterloo are far from being even a medium-sized “big city” as yet and won’t be for many years. So, spending a billion of our dollars now, or any time in the near future, for a system that will thoroughly disrupt the automobile traffic which is and will remain for a long time the standard because most convenient way to get around in such a place, is, in brief, folly. The right way to think is not big: it’s to think the size we are — which is, very modest. Like our pocketbooks.
Shame on The Record for lending its headlines to this really bad cause.
Jan Narveson
Waterloo
Improve bus service, by Les Harris
- November 02, 2010
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Re: Feds give transit plan $265M — Sept. 3; Transit plan needs full debate — Sept. 3
The Sept. 3 article and editorial covered the problems of planning very well. I agree with the preference of buses over light rail and offer the following comments.
King Street is not an outstanding “king” of our streets, although it may be the most in use at this time. It may carry only 10 per cent or so of the traffic. We should not spend close to $1 billion to service only 10 per cent of the people who take public transit while taxing the other 90 per cent of the people who don’t travel down King Street, as well as the people who never will use public transit.
The existing iXpress now servicing King Street could be enhanced in many ways, such as providing dedicated lanes in the high density areas, and having fewer stops. The No. 7 bus now stops at all King Street locations. Eliminate the University Avenue pick-up route, and begin a new sub-service for the students.
For all the rest of the Kitchener, Waterloo and Cambridge areas there are many “main” streets that could be used as “high speed” arteries such as University, Ottawa, Homer-Watson, Fountain. Provide them with terminals and dedicated lanes where feasible. Electric buses could be used for replacement as required, especially that of the general use buses. The braking would generate the power to assist charging the batteries.
These changes would not be dependent on a sudden increase of use. We now have more than $300 million to make a major impact on our existing system without costing us anything. Let’s go for it.
Les Harris
Waterloo
Learn from Houston, by Tom Fitzsimmons
- October 30, 2010
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I recently watched a brief video of the light rail transit system in Houston, Texas. Although that city is much larger than Waterloo Region, there is a similarity with their system and our current proposal.
Their tracks run for about nine miles through the heavily populated downtown core, much the same as our local plan. The tracks are segregated from auto traffic, except at controlled intersections, and everything sounds quite similar to Calgary and Portland — cities that we’ve tried to model our system against.
That video made very clear why we’ve never heard of Houston’s system. Although there are plenty of warning signs alongside the tracks, motorists continually forget about the light rail trains and make left hand turns into their path, try to beat them across intersections or stop behind a red light in the path of the trains. To date this year, they’ve had 62 major collisions with no sign of any letup in the frequency of mishaps.
As we move forward, perhaps our planners need to check out Houston’s design and learn from their mistakes.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Useless projects, by Brian Gibson
- October 28, 2010
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As a resident of Cambridge, I am so sick of regional politicians trying to justify their existence. Why are we subjected to stuff rammed down our throats when clearly the majority has spoken? The light rail transit system is a waste of money. The roundabouts on Franklin Boulevard are a joke, and I could go on.
Stop forcing stuff down our throats, when clearly more people are against what they want to do then are for them.
Brian Gibson
Cambridge
Door-step wisdom, by Isobel Mackay
- October 28, 2010
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Re: Standing-room only for last mayoral debate — Oct. 22
I was surprised by the surprises of some of our mayoral candidates on issues that have been the concern of the electorate for some time. In this article, Waterloo Mayor Brenda Halloran said she was surprised by the opposition to the light rail proposal she had encountered.
Is this a manifestation of decisions made by our representatives in isolation from the people they are supposed to represent? If so, perhaps door-knocking should be mandatory for our elected officials in those four long years between municipal elections.
Isobel Mackay
Waterloo
Rail transit opposed, by Alison Pedlar and Larry Haworth
- October 22, 2010
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Re: No surprise rail transit takes beating — Oct. 16
Jeff Outhit makes some telling criticisms of the region’s plans for rapid transit. The transit proposal is based on ideas that have little or nothing to do with what is affordable and what makes sense for this region. Recently, voters have started to question the legacy that will be left by those politicians who seem determined to push on with this scheme.
Voters’ reaction to the transit plan is borne out by a recent survey done by Taxpayers for Sensible Transit. All candidates for the upcoming election were sent a questionnaire asking whether they are for or against the plan. The vast majority of the candidates don’t support the proposal. There is every reason to think that this consensus results from the candidates having knocked on doors and being told loud and clear that they do not want the region to go ahead with the costly plan.
Before deciding how to vote, see for yourself what the candidates on the ballot in your ward intend to do if elected.
Alison Pedlar and Larry Haworth
St. Agatha
More research, by Edward Redgwell
- October 21, 2010
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The Record has been swamped recently with letters regarding the light rail system, either for or against, from citizens. Where is the middle ground? Most taxpayers live two to five kilometres from the core and politicians have endorsed this urban sprawl. Suddenly they want a system that ignores the majority of taxpayers.
The current bus service in the suburbs is poor so how will they be able to use the light rail system? Or have politicians forgotten we have four to five months of winter every year?
Far more research is needed before hundreds of millions of dollars are spent for something that could be a white elephant.
Edward Redgwell
Kitchener
Shuttle alternative, by Arno Kilianski
- October 21, 2010
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There is a much cheaper alternative to urban light rail transit for our region. NASA is retiring its space shuttle fleet, so all the region needs to do is bid $100-million on each decommissioned shuttle, and proceed to install bench seating in the cargo bay. This will enable large numbers of passengers to travel between adjacent shopping malls in mere seconds. After all, if large aircraft skimming over our rooftops at hypersonic speeds don’t get us out of our cars, then what will?
The system could easily pay for itself if we offer suborbital space flights to wealthy Oktoberfest tourists at $100 000 — or so per seat. If these flights run between Conestoga Mall and the Ainslie Street bus terminal, there will be nothing for those pesky “us, too” Cambridge politicians to complain about.
Such is my vision for the future of Waterloo Region: High-tech ultrarapid self-financing urban transit powered by clean, green, eco-friendly hydrogen fuel. It’s just too bad that I’m not running for election this fall.
Arno Kilianski
Kitchener
It’s time to talk, by Joe Visser
- October 21, 2010
Re: Time for debate on region’s transit plan has passed — Oct. 18
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According to Cari Rastas Howard, candidates for the upcoming municipal election shouldn’t be debating the viability of the proposed light rail transit project in Waterloo Region.
I completely disagree. The facts are all finally tabled now, and we now know how much it will cost the taxpayers of the region. The Record did a fine job explaining the whole proposal, and who’s all for and against it in the Oct. 9 article, Candidates Beat Up On Transit Plan.
This is a democracy, and this is our one final chance to vote on the proposed transit plan before any plans are carried out. Howard seems to think that because the bureaucrats have decided what’s best for us, it shouldn’t be an election issue. It is this patronizing attitude on the part of some civil servants that is really annoying. Civil servants and politicians work for us, the voters and taxpayers, not the other way around, and every four years we little people get to speak by voting for those who represent our opinions.
Whether someone is for or against this project, find out which candidates for regional council are on your side, and vote. I for my part intend to vote for regional candidates who do not support the project as it is. I might not be an “informed” civil servant, but I know a white elephant when I see one.
Joe Visser
Kitchener
Build a monorail, by Cheryl Lescom
- October 18, 2010
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Light rail transit is a huge issue for our area. It involves huge money that will cost more than we are being told, to build, fix and maintain. It will result in a huge property tax increase and will be a huge headache to build.
So it is a huge election issue. I want a vote on this, and every property owner should have one, too. This should be on the ballot and the fact that it is not is huge. Give us a vote and a voice.
Personally, I think light rail makes no sense. Instead, build the new Kitchener Rangers auditorium in Kitchener’s downtown core and have the monorail system running through it.
That would really help the downtown core and our whole community instead of having a train run from one mall to another mall.
Cheryl Lescom
Kitchener
Improve the buses, by Eleanor Kaufman
- October 18, 2010
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The proposed light rail transit project for our region should be stopped before any more money is spent on it.
I hope that regional council will consider carefully before committing further to this grandiose scheme. With the huge deficits all governments are running, this is one place where some money could be saved without upsetting anyone beyond the regional councillors. People to whom I talk are either unaware of the plans or opposed to them.
Public transit in the area is not widely used. The temporary crush on the buses serving the universities in the mornings is quickly replaced by large buses rumbling through the area with very few riders. Unlike regional councillors, I use public transit and often find myself riding in a large bus with a driver and two other passengers.
Our transit system can use some improvements and no doubt they will cost money. Too many stops have no shelters, no seats and no posted schedules in the winter, these stops are plugged with huge mounds of snow that are very dangerous for the elderly passengers with walkers and canes.
Kitchener and Waterloo are growing to the east and west — an inflexible light rail system running from north to south will do nothing but cost the taxpayers money.
Eleanor Kaufman
Waterloo
We have overspent, by Bob Schulte
- October 15, 2010
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To promote a light rail system, our local governments must assume that the citizens of our communities are willing to embrace a restrictive lifestyle with minimal use of cars; where their comings and goings are dictated, for the most part, by the boundaries of urban public transit. And they must assume that the majority of the taxpayers are in favour of unfettered population growth in the region that would be counted on to pay for such an extravagance.
Then there must be an assumption that a light rail system will allow the region to turn the corner into the future. Well, the future has come and gone, regardless of the turns that have been made. The city fathers supported a wrong turn into the future when the under patronized Kitchener farmers market was built. It has evolved into a twice-relocated money pit.
And then there must be the assumption that the rest of us will be happy to pay for a system that most believe they will never use.
Let’s finally put a cap on this irrational centre core spending by abandoning the vision of an exorbitant rail project based on assumption that will surely prove to be an embarrassing disaster for Waterloo Region.
I am hopefully assuming common sense will prevail after the next civic elections.
Bob Schulte
Kitchener
Streetcars obsolete, by Derek Perry
- October 15, 2010
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Re: Back to the future — or not — Oct. 9
A picture is worth a thousand words. The more things change the more they stay the same. These two adages came to mind immediately when I saw the photograph of a streetcar in the middle of King Street in the very early 1900s on The Record’s Oct. 9 front page.
What did I see? A streetcar causing a traffic jam. It may be at a passenger stop or it may be broken down. (The driver appears to be standing in the street.) Regardless, the limited amount of traffic, even then, is being disrupted by this thing blocking traffic in the intersection. The picture was taken before the tracks were doubled so one can imagine how that developed and why buses took over and are significantly more efficient for all users of our city streets. We can see the same problem still occurring in Toronto. Every day, traffic is held up there by its streetcars, which they laughingly call the “Red Rocket.” The Red Rocket is outdated, but Toronto has invested so much in it that it is stuck with it.
And now we are thinking of creating a huge debt so that we can regress 100 years and bring back streetcars. I can’t believe it.
Derek Perry
Kitchener
Not like Portland, by Frank Roth
- October 14, 2010
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The proposed light rapid transit for Waterloo Region is frequently compared to the successful system installed in Portland, Oregon, but comparing the Portland system with what is proposed for Waterloo Region is like comparing apples to cucumbers.
Portland‘s regional light rail system runs on dedicated lanes to the suburbs with stops at two-mile intervals. A system of street cars and buses intersect with the light rapid transit providing an efficient transportation system for the whole region.
The proposed Waterloo system would run streetcars along King Street between two malls competing with mixed traffic — definitely not rapid.
The Portland system has attracted development around its two-mile stops. The proposed Waterloo system will not attract development around street car stops on King Street.
A major traffic expressway in Portland was closed and turned into a park, forcing commuters to use the light rail transit and resulting in substantial ridership increase. Is Waterloo Region prepared to close the Conestoga Expressway to force commuters onto the light rail transit?
There are six seats on the Portland city council, including the mayor, compared to 16 on Waterloo regional council. The light rail transit system proposed for Waterloo Region cannot be compared to the Portland system. The benefits derived from the Portland system will not automatically transfer to Waterloo by running a street car along King Street, and no such comparison should be relied on to justify the cost of installing the system.
Frank Roth
Cambridge
We don’t need rails now, by Ron Ridgway
- October 14, 2010
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Re: Back to the future — or not — Oct. 9
The Record’s Oct. 9 front page mentions that the region’s voters are being asked about the return of rail transit to our cities. Well, no one asked me. Yes, I attended an information session and let it be known I was not in favour — at this time — but I have never been asked by those who appear to want to leave this as their legacy.
Of course, we have the election coming up, but how does one express disagreement with light rail’s strongest advocates considering that they are running with virtually no serious competition? I continue to wonder just who these “most” people are who are in favour. Shouldn’t we find out with a referendum? It’s certainly important enough.
Today’s councils in Kitchener, Waterloo and the region are strangling us with continued tax increases. And, don’t even mention good old Dalton McGuinty. Seniors, in particular, shudder at the mention.
Yes, we will want to reconsider light rail in future years, because eventually it may well be a necessity, like the expressway — but not in the next few years, while councils try (I hope) to bring some sense and reason to their spending and taxing and as we all try to recover some of the financial wherewithal that the economy and municipal councils have taken away from us over the last few years.
Ron Ridgway
Waterloo
Number don’t add up, by Don Snider
- October 14, 2010
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Re: Back to the future — or not — Oct.9
The light rail transit proposal must go to a referendum. Let the proponents and the opponents state their cases and then let the taxpayers decide. I suspect that the proponents don’t want this because they can’t justify it because it doesn’t make sense.
If I wanted a bank loan for $700 million, I would need a business plan that was based on fact. I would have to show how I would pay for it, and how long to pay it off. Why is this any different?
In this Record article, light rail proponents claimed that by 2031 the light rail transit system would have 56,000 riders a day. Let’s say, $3 per trip multiplied by 56,000 riders multiplied by 365 days equals about $61.3 million a year. Based on the projected initial costs it would take 11 years to pay for, excluding operation and maintenance costs. My calculations are speculation, but so are theirs. And I do know you don’t get a bank loan based on speculation and what ifs. I suspect they don’t want a referendum because they can’t justify it, because it doesn’t make sense.
Also, our local city councillors have been trying for years to revitalize the downtown core. If the light rail transit system runs from the Conestoga shopping mall through to the Fairview Park shopping mall, who in their right mind would get off the train downtown in January to wander outdoors from store to store in —15 C temperatures when they could stay on that train and shop in a sheltered mall?
On Oct. 25 you can vote for candidates that are against this. It’s your money, it’s your right.
Don Snider
Kitchener
Not a transit region, by Bob Verdun
- October 13, 2010
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The “Vital Signs” report on transit is cause for alarm. From 2005 to 2008, transit usage in Waterloo Region rose by only 14 per cent despite a major investment of our tax dollars in promotion and improved service. Across the province during the same period, transit usage rose by 23 per cent.
Why is our region falling behind at the same time as Ken Seiling’s council is so strongly committed to an expensive rail transit system?
The answer is bluntly simple: We have a dispersed metropolis that will never support the type of high-density transit our municipal leaders want.
Unlike cities such as Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, and Ottawa, we do not have a concentrated central employment zone that makes high-density transit necessary and practical. Trains would actually discourage transit usage in Kitchener-Waterloo because of the relatively low volumes of users. Trains would run much less often than buses, and it is frequency of service that is the number one factor in the effectiveness of public transit.
Build it and they will come? Unfortunately not. There are many stations along Toronto’s subway lines that are still only lightly developed, and there is little reason for developers to make major investments along the proposed K-W rail transit line.
Bob Verdun
Kitchener
Rails no solution, by Robert Davison
- October 12, 2010
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Re: Light rail is the sensible option — Sept. 24
Where did we get the notion that contributions from the senior levels of government is free money? The hundreds of millions being offered comes from the same source as the local contribution: the pocketbooks of all of us.
The proposed light rail transit will not be rapid. It will run on the surface, affected by traffic congestion and not much faster than the Ixpress service. By my calculations I could cycle far faster to my commuting destination, despite the fact that it will be on the proposed line.
The proposed light rail system does nothing to solve congestion across Kitchener. Take a look at Queen, Highland and Victoria streets during the morning and evening rush hours. How will a train running through the cores alleviate that pressure? Because of this cross traffic and sprawling low density subdivisions far to the west, downtown Kitchener, in particular, will be blighted with parking garages regardless of the effort put into improving public transit in the central corridor.
In this guest column, James Howe makes the assertion that the light rail line will somehow halt urban sprawl. Transit, be it rail, bus or otherwise, does not prevent it. At the same time, the region and cities preach sustainable development and alternative transportation, new commercial developments along Ira Needles Boulevard and residential developments are approved further and further to the west. These are certainly outside the catchment area for the light rail system.
The situation in Kitchener has been particularly bad in turning neighbourhoods into islands isolated by high speed roads and impossible-to-cross roundabouts, like the one proposed for Homer Watson Boulevard and Block Line Road in order to facilitate quicker motor vehicle traffic. This inevitably forces people back behind the wheels of their cars.
Robert Davison
Kitchener
It’s a white elephant, by Ted Pecak
- October 12, 2010
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Light rail transit debating is going on, some money has been promised and no decision yet made. That’s good.
Light rail transit is a white elephant, period. It will only be used by people living within walking distance of the pick-up stops. Most of us live too far and would rather drive directly to our destination than to a pick-up stop. However, those who live further away and might want to use it would have to be provided with parking lots at pick-up stops — most likely with parking meters. How else? As well, with all that marginal use, have all the proponents thought of problems with a year or two of construction headaches? Have all the proponents thought of problems with all those extra street crossings?
Spend the promised money wisely and save. Expand and improve bus service to outer subdivisions. It will cost much, much less, no disruption or headaches to any one and even encourage us to leave our cars at home.
We also well know, as history tells us, that by the time the construction is finished the total costs will at least be doubled. Think well before you commit us taxpayers to unnecessarily additional taxes on a white elephant.
Tad Pecak
Kitchener
A newer technology, by Glen Soulis
- October 09, 2010
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I’m getting sick of hearing the proposed streetcar system referred to as a ‘light rail’ system. Toronto is stuck with its present dangerous and disruptive streetcar infrastructure, but has no plans to expand this outmoded type of public transit. To the contrary, long range plans call for the eventual ripping up of the rails, which are a danger to cyclists, and impede other vehicular transport, as well as being dangerous for riders, who must cross a lane of traffic to board.
The proposed route for Waterloo’s streetcars will do nothing to serve 90 per cent of current commuters. Our cities are not laid out in a manner which lends itself to easy mass transit solutions. We should revisit this issue anew, recognizing that any proposal will require enormous capital investment.
Bombardier has developed a monorail system that is significantly cheaper than previous versions. It would be worthy of serious study.
Those who oppose the current proposal are often portrayed as out of touch with the inevitable future, whereas, in fact, the proponents of this system are at least 40 years behind the available new technologies. Fortunately, this misnamed proposal is unlikely to be built.
Let’s stop name-calling and come up with a new, workable solution for the Waterloo region.
Glen Soulis
Waterloo
Bus expansion is a better strategy, by John Shortreed
- October 09, 2010
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Re: Trains endorsed at debate — Oct. 5
It’s hardly headline news that Waterloo Region and Chair Ken Seiling, who has been promoting a commuter rail system for four years, want a train for Christmas.
Newsworthy of a headline would be the U.S. department of transportation finding that recent LRT systems had average cost overruns of 40 per cent, and ridership was only 50 per cent of that predicted. This would make the annual tax impact 15 per cent or more. Now that would be news.
Newsworthy would be that the LRT with one stop between downtown Kitchener and uptown Waterloo will not promote intensification of land use since the existing King Street bus has 10 stops, not one, so how could LRT promote development? For example, I live in Bauer Lofts and it will be 600 metres to the nearest LRT stop.
Newsworthy also would be a disclosure that the LRT is a commuter rail system to serve downtown Kitchener, but unfortunately the forecast 2031 employment is only 25,000; less than half what is required to support LRT.
An upgraded iXpress with a fare-free zone from Kitchener to uptown Waterloo with 10 stops would promote land use intensification as well as serve the high tech sector and promote this region as a preferred retirement location for empty nesters with a huge economic input. Now that would be worthy of a headline.
John Shortreed
Waterloo
Costs are too high, by Stewart Thomas
- October 09, 2010
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At the regional chair debate, Ken Seiling was asked how significant the tax increase would have to be before he would reject the light rail option. While he did not respond directly, The Record reported that the tax increase could be as high as 7.5 per cent and Seiling is still supporting the rail approach.
From a taxpayer’s perspective, this 7.5 per cent increase is in addition to the regular annual tax increases imposed by the region, an overall double-digit percentage increase. While this increase may be acceptable to Seiling, it is not acceptable to the majority of taxpayers, particularly when coupled with the higher cost of electricity, water and sewer, and the harmonized sales tax.
Also, the 7.5 per cent increase will be much higher: the capital cost estimate of $790 million is over a year old and rising. The actual expenditure on major projects invariably exceeds the estimate and the assumptions used in the development of the annual operating deficit projections are overly optimistic, such as the ridership tripling in size within five years. The already gloomy financial results will undoubtedly translate into a financial disaster. Unfortunately, by the time these realities are known it will be too late.
Subjecting this project to an objective cost-benefit analysis would reveal that the costs of the light rail are too high and that the benefits are speculations based on overly optimistic projections.
Stewart Thomas
Kitchener
Transit’s no answer, by Gerard Dick
- October 07, 2010
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The wonderful light rail transit system that everyone seems so excited about is nothing but a one dimensional non-solution to a non-problem that the city fathers have brought upon themselves. The once vibrant downtown, with its profusion of small businesses, no longer exists. Those small businesses have been forced into extinction by the big box super malls that have proliferated all around suburbia. The downtown has been made more pedestrian friendly and, as a result, I can no longer find parking in the area so I stay away. Problem solved. Transit is neither green nor efficient. When you allow for the fact that ridership is not 100 per cent and calculate the energy cost on a per person per kilometre basis, a Hummer is the only vehicle that does worse than transit. A car also offers point-to-point transportation solutions.
I live three kilometres from King Street. How will transit be of any value? My work is four kilometres from King Street. Walking would be faster than taking transit. In huge cities transit works because there are no parking places available. Do the proponents of the rail system expect the city to collapse in on itself so that a single line up the middle will make sense?
Gerard Dick
Kitchener
We can’t afford rail, by Edith Blanchette
- October 06, 2010
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Re: Trains endorsed at debate — Oct. 5
Neither regional chair candidate supports a referendum on rapid transit. Robert Milligan said this would invite residents to vote on something that most of them won’t understand sufficiently well. Does he think the majority of voters in the Waterloo Region are not intelligent enough to make up their minds regarding rapid transit and the effect on their ability to pay the rise in taxes this will incur? Any item that will cost taxpayers a large rise in taxes should allow the voters to have their say by referendums. We are supposed to be a democratic country.
This light rail transit system is not a system that will benefit all voters in Waterloo Region and as a senior citizen of Cambridge I do not feel I can afford more tax hikes. Why should we have to pay more taxes for a bus that we already have? I can understand sufficiently well that I’m going to have to pay for a rail system that will not extend service to Cambridge .The figures quoted now for light rail transit are likely low to what the actual cost will be, as seen by past experiences.
There also should be recall put on the ballot. Civil servants have just gotten a large raise, but senior citizens did not. Not all seniors were able to retire with large pensions. We cannot afford this proposed system.
Edith Blanchette
Cambridge
Not a nice idea, by Jan Narveson
- October 04, 2010
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Re: An affordable plan — Oct. 1
Letter writer Darren Price says that light rail transit is not so expensive after all — it would cost only $15.28 per month per resident. (I don’t include the overrun of probably 200 per cent which projects like this invariably entail). “That is not a not of money,” he writes.
Uh, huh: but that’s every single man, woman and child, so a family of four is paying $61/month to pay for other people’s transportation. And, hey, folks, doesn’t anybody pay any attention to the other 30 million Canadians who would be paying two-thirds of the bill? It’s not much per month per person for them, either, of course. Come to think of it, we could easily double my income and it would cost just peanuts: if every Canadian paid just one cent per year into a fund for increasing my income . . . why, wow! That’s $300,000 a year.
Come off it. Robbing the rest of Canada to pay for a toy we don’t need and which will disrupt traffic to an unbelievable extent is really not a nice idea.
Jan Narveson
Waterloo
Municipalities lacking in accountability, by Joan Clements
- October 04, 2010
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Re: Waterloo seeks hydro bill hike — Sept. 29
According to this Record article, the councils of Waterloo, Woolwich and Wellesley have each skimmed off $47 million from Waterloo North Hydro; the City of Kitchener has skimmed $65 million from Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro, and Cambridge Council has taken more than $37 million out of Cambridge and North Dumfries Hydro. This is appalling.
How are they allowed to do this skimming?
They just increase the hydro rates as they need more millions I assume. In just the last six months some residential hydro has increased in some households by approximately 60 per cent (including the addition of our Ontario Liberals’ harmonized sales tax as of July 1). And now we have the “smart meter.”
Between exorbitant water rate hikes, tax hikes and hydro rate hikes, it’s no wonder our food banks are so heavily used. We “ordinary citizens” have a choice of paying our hydro bills and taxes or eating. And at these rates it won’t be long that we can no longer afford to have our own homes.
And now most of the politicians are gung-ho about “light rail” running from Fairview Mall to Conestoga Mall. How is this going to benefit us who live in so many other parts of the cities, including Cambridge, and would have to have some mode of transportation to get to the train? The additional funding of about $235 million at this point in time (not covered by provincial and federal governments who have so far only promised — not yet given — the remainder of the funds) would have to come from somewhere. Oh yes, they can just increase our hydro rates and skim off the top again and of course increase taxes as well.
It would seem that the politicians elected by us to represent us are certainly not doing a very good job of looking after our interests — only their own interests — and seem to have free reign of squeezing every possible dollar out of us, but certainly not to our benefit.
Where is the accountability?
Joan Clements
Kitchener
Drop rail plan, by Lloyd Mundy
- September 29, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Light rapid transit is an interesting subject that hopefully city council will discard. Please remember that the taxpayers will pay through the nose for a system used only by a small minority.
Remember RIM Park and the handful of idiots within city council that were taken advantage of? Well, we are paying for this stupidity and will continue to do so for years.
Friends in Mississauga that have homes whose value are much the same as ours, pay about 50 per cent of the tax load that we do in Waterloo. We pray that the intelligence of city council has improved.
Lloyd Mundy
Waterloo
Address local issues, by Carol Wilhelm
- September 29, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
With the upcoming municipal election, I believe the following issues need to be addressed.
First, there must be a municipal wage freeze now. If transit workers and firefighters insist on having higher wages because “somewhere else” pays more, by all means wish them well and let them go. Many local citizens would line up for those benefits and a secure job — and be willing to work under a wage freeze, too. I’m sure that training them would not be as expensive as the constant wage increases.
Secondly, a light rail system is not practical; it’s too expensive and won’t get outlying suburbanites out of their cars. Expanding bus service is likely the affordable answer. There are always cost overruns — especially with any government project. We can’t afford the increased taxes this would necessitate.
And, please, no more roundabouts. The collisions may be causing less damage but the inconvenience of reporting accidents and going to the police centre is not convenient for many and the insurance companies still raise your rates even if the planning department considers roundabouts an improvement.
Carol Wilhelm
Kitchener
Regional transit doesn’t serve Cambridge well, by Les Kadar
- September 29, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The human body cannot work without a solid network of veins, arteries and capillaries that all feed the heart. Likewise all systems whether they are anatomical or man made must function under the same premise.
While the politicians in this region are either giddy or displeased about the most recent light rail transit developments, the public who will pay for it are a lot less enthusiastic. This is not a simple Cambridge and the left out townships versus Kitchener-Waterloo issue folks, nor just an environmental issue. This is also an implementation of a service and allocation of heavy tax increases to come issue.
Our business is located in the industrial basin on Pinebush Road.
Previous to that our company was located in the village of Blair on Blair Road.
I can tell you unequivocally, past and current Grand River Transit service has been nothing short of miserable at best and non-existent at worst in these areas. Regardless, my tax dollars are hard at work sustaining what I see as a system that is broken and in need of far more than a “visionary” long-range solution. Adding a $1-billion rail system won’t fix what isn’t working now.
Grand River Transit officials claim increased service cannot be provided to “under serviced” areas because, “there is insufficient ridership” to justify it.
How can you increase ridership, if you don’t provide the service?
One of our staff takes Grand River Transit every day to work and back from Kitchener. It takes a minimum of three hours a day out of his life unless he misses the connection at which point it has taken five hours for him to get home. It also prevents him from being able to work weekends or overtime when required without a ride, as buses do not run at times when he needs them. In winter, he is frozen and soaked to the bone due to the lack of bus shelters. Snow plows generally fill in bus stop areas so riders are forced to stand on top of huge ice and snow banks or in slush filled ditches.
As an employer, I consider myself lucky to have him but feel sick at what he has to go through because of the poorly designed system in place.
Why is Grand River Transit service least provided in a sector in which it is most required such as the industrial basins? Across the street is a company that employs roughly 1,000 workers, many of whom do not drive. Their biggest problem has been staff retention driven by lack of appropriate transportation. Not everyone owns or wants a car.
I am not against a functioning, cost-effective light rail transit system.
While I have had serious concerns with some of the most recent directions our City of Cambridge has taken over the past few years, with respect to the outcry over the light rail transit, however, I have to agree.
Bottom line is this: No light rail transit service to Cambridge is unacceptable. We either pay no additional taxes to the region for light rail transit we are not going to get or we are given free the rapid bus service being offered in lieu of being excluded from the big picture plans the region is so excited about.
There is no half pregnant. We are either part of this region or we are not, but I think that’s a whole other conversation.
Les Kadar
Cambridge
Debate transit plan, by Alfred Rempel
- September 27, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Rapid transit controversy lingers — Sept. 18
The light rail transit proposal was estimated to cost $210 million in 2002. In 2010 that estimate has risen to $800 million.
Can we trust estimates that are doubling every four years? This would put the actual cost of the light rail proposal closer to $2 billion dollars if the rising cost of estimates bears any connection to reality.
As Jim Wideman rationalizes, “It’s not primarily a people mover. It’s a way for us to attract redevelopment into the downtown areas.”
It is not primarily a people mover? If it is not seen as primarily a people mover, it is quite possible that it is all smoke and mirrors.
Could $2 billion dollars not be better spent attracting development into the downtown areas? I thought that we were experiencing a land shortage in Waterloo region. Why don’t we use planning policy, taxation and zoning to steer development into the urban core?
Every cost-benefit analysis found that rapid buses provide a higher return on public investment than trains. This proposal seems to be affordable only is someone else pays for it.
This is an excellent debate for the fall election. This proposal will shape development and change our region permanently. This issue could change the face of municipal and regional council. When Ottawa-Carleton originally proposed a similar transit plan, the voters there were wise enough to replace them with a new council that favoured buses.
Alfred Rempel
Kitchener
Expand bus service, by Luanne McGinley
- September 22, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Feds give transit plan $265M — Sept. 3
The Region should expand and improve our present transit system rather than spend $790 million on a brand new transit system.
There are many areas in Waterloo Region that do not have bus service. I live in one of them — Doon Mills in Kitchener.
I rely on Grand River Transit to get to work most days. I like the fact that using a bus is economical and more environmentally friendly than using a car. However, because of the lack of bus service to my neighbourhood, my commute to and from work (in Waterloo) is about two hours and 50 minutes daily, and even longer in winter. My walk to the closest bus stop takes 25 minutes.
The proposed light rail transit may quicken my travel between Fairway Park mall and Waterloo, but it won’t help with the connecting bus. I am happy with the routing of the IXPRESS, but more buses are needed at peak time.
Public money would be better spent by extending bus service to subdivisions that are not serviced, and to increase the frequency of buses at peak times. Better service will encourage more people to use public transportation and that’s a good thing.
As taxpayers, we are entitled to bus transportation. Please improve the system we have in place.
Luanne McGinley
Kitchener
Buses are the issue, by Alex Gumz
- September 21, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Light rail is a heavy waste of time, money and energy. Anyone who says light rail is going to solve all the mass transit problems in their lives is being naïve. The bus system in our region is the real issue.
There needs to be buses which run straight up and down major arteries. And buses on the outskirts should increase distance between stops; a couple more blocks of walking isn’t going to kill anyone.
Finally, the region should have sheltered bike lock-ups to encourage people to bike to the major transfer stations. Pretty simple, quick, and affordable.
Alex Gumz
Kitchener
Let’s vote on it, by Robert Price
- September 21, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Who wants the light rail?
There has been and will be, pros and cons regarding the light rail proposal. I would like to suggest that the light rail proposal be put on the ballot Oct. 25th.
Let the people of Kitchener and Waterloo vote and show the powers that be what they really want. After all, they’ll be paying for it. I think the powers are afraid that if this proposal is put to a vote it would be voted down, so I don’t think we’ll see this proposal on the Oct. 25 ballot. But it is something to think about.
Robert Price
Baden
Spend responsibly, by Helga Hirrle
- September 21, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Property taxes rise as municipal payrolls have soared over last four years — Sept. 11
The people who will get my vote are the ones who are responsible with our tax dollars and spend the money wisely and carefully.
As a senior on a fixed income, I believe our taxes are too high, and I am definitely not in favour of the light rail transit system. I don’t believe people will use it and it will be just another red herring, like RIM Park.
As for the roundabouts, enough already. They used to be popular a long time ago, then they got rid of them and now we are starting all over again.
I do believe a referendum on light rail should be on the municipal ballot.
Helga Hirrle
Waterloo
Rail not appropriate, by Tom Fitzsimmons
- September 18, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Feds give transit plan $265M
Now that the level of provincial and federal support for our transit plan has been established, it is now up to our politicians to figure out how best to use the funds.
In his speech announcing federal support, I felt that the most telling remark made by Prime Minister Stephen Harper was “it is true that rail lines are most suited to large cities.” Regional chair Ken Seiling still holds out for trains. What he seems to forget or is ignoring is that his proposal to lay down railroad tracks between two abutting downtown cores is the only proposal like that in the world.
The “ideal” application of light rail programs is to speedily get people out of the cities and into the suburbs. The city core is like the hub of a wheel and roads and buses radiate around it and interconnect to the LRT as needed.
Twenty years ago I saw Calgary’s LRT system in operation; it runs for miles through open country. If land values went up after the tracks went in it was because there was nothing there before except dirt.
If Seiling intends to make LRT an election issue, he better choose his words carefully when he explains why he wants it and how he intends to pay for it.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Transit system should link cities, by George Karger
- September 18, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
In the last year I have read innumerable articles, editorials and letters to the editor praising, glorifying, and justifying the proposed rapid light rail running through Waterloo and Kitchener, written by great numbers of “experts.” Unfortunately, there was just as much written opposing it and claiming that it could not be justified.
During this time the rhetoric, especially from our local elected officials, was all about “world class” and “high tech.” I wonder if they really understand these terms, or are using them for political posturing.
To these politicians and the proponents who claim how great it is in all the big cities across Europe, I wonder why no one has considered or suggested a total, integrated, convenient, public transportation system. By this, as is in most cities in Europe, it is an easy and convenient transfer from inner city public transport to an intercity bus, or an intercity train, in one location, preferably under one roof.
With the possibility of a GO train coming to Kitchener, we will have a piecemeal system with the train station two blocks north of King Street and the bus station south, with the rapid light rail running between both and no easy connection to either.
Before we spend over a billion dollars — no government project is ever within budget — this project should be rethought as to what will benefit this region.
Maybe with the local election coming next month, this should be a good point to be considered.
A further thought to the provincial people, the GO train could be routed through Pearson airport and get a lot of traffic off Highway 401.
George Karger
St. Jacobs
A white elephant, by Charlie Cliché
- September 17, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: City needs light rail - Sept. 11
I'm glad to read that letter writer Andrew Milne of Edmonton is ready to put Waterloo Region at the top of his "move to" list if a light rail transit system is built because we'll need as many local taxpayers as possible in order to pay for this future white elephant.
The light rail dream will not be another RIM Park fiasco. What I foresee is our very own Stade Olympique in the making. Ask any Montrealer what that meant to their pocketbook.
Charlie Cliché
Kitchener
Go with rapid buses, by Harold Hartwick
- September 15, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
What are our politicians thinking with this plan to run a rail service between Fairview Park and Conestoga malls? We once had a rail service that ran between Cambridge, Kitchener, Waterloo, Elmira and all the way to Port Dover.
We also had a street car service, and a trolley service, and both were scrapped. I believe our tax dollars would be better spent on a rapid bus service with the possibility of reaching some of our smaller communities.
I am a senior on a fixed income and depend on the bus service. Would this not be a better way to go?
Harold Hartwick
Waterloo
Transit’s a time waster, by Ken Hedger
- September 14, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
All this hoopla over a light rail transit system for parts of Kitchener and Waterloo is nonsense. Use the money to improve current bus routes, add routes and frequency of service. Why should it take an hour to travel by transit from sections of Hespeler to the hospital in Cambridge, when you can drive in about 10 minutes?
Use transit? Not as long as I can buy fuel
Ken Hedger
Cambridge
It’s expensive, by Leilani Belanger
- September 13, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Feds give transit plan $265M — Sept. 3
The federal government has providing funding for transit in Waterloo Region. As there is an election coming up this should be placed on the ballot. We have a right to vote where our money is being spent and we have a right to say yay or nay.
With our taxes rising and rising, and the fee for water to be applied in December, we are quickly running out of money. It is the taxpayers’ money any way you look at it; our tax dollars are funding this system.
This is a huge expense to the region and the cities involved, not to mention the $1 million maintenance fee per year to keep streetcars up and running.
We need to hear what the region’s councillors and incumbents for mayor have to say about this and we need them to hear what we have to say. If the region is at all democratic it would seem the best approach is to follow the wishes of the majority of the people of the region and not a few who think they know what is best for us.
Leilani Belanger
Kitchener
We don’t need LRT, by Wanda Hoffman
- September 11, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Feds give transit plan $265M — Sept. 3
Regarding the proposed new transit system, I cannot for the life of me see why the region needs it. At 2 p.m. recently, while running errands, I passed four or more transit buses with less than three people on them.
We do not have a Toronto population to support it — there just does not seem to be a need for it. I would be looking at ways to cut costs on transit as it stands during the off hours — why are we running city buses with three people on it?
Wanda Hoffman
Waterloo
Expand transit system, by Jennifer Battler
- September 10, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Feds give transit plan $265M — Sept. 3
Is it just me or does spending $790 million on a brand new transit system in the region not make much sense?
I can appreciate upgrading our current system to make it run better, but why does the region and the province want to implement a transit system that is only going to run to a few key locations between Kitchener and Waterloo?
Why wouldn’t we develop and spend the money on a transit system that allows people to get around easily through Waterloo, Kitchener, Cambridge, Guelph, London and Toronto. It seems to me, that in order to increase the use of transit systems, we need to be expanding where they take us, not limiting it to a few key locations.
With this new transit system, which from what I understand is similar to the TTC in Toronto but on a much smaller scale, why don’t we look to further develop and improve our current system?
Jennifer Battler
Kitchener
Upgrade rail line, by Mary Pappert
- September 10, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Feds give transit plan $265M — Sept.3
The millions of federal, provincial and local tax dollars committed to the local rapid transit rail would be better utilized and provide better service to local taxpayers and visiting travellers if they were used to re-activate the former rail line from Elmira to Cambridge — utilizing the existing route (with some short necessary realignment), using the land already designated and integrating this rail system with our intercity trains from the U.S. to Toronto and beyond. This upgraded rail line should be integrated with a local “grid system” of transit buses to move people all across the region and relieve traffic on our roads.
The rapid transit line as proposed will either stop too often to be rapid or not stop often enough for sufficient numbers of travellers to make it a financially viable service.
Mary Pappert
Kitchener
We can’t afford it, by Ruth Haworth
- September 09, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Feds give transit plan $265M — Sept. 3
Now that we know how much the federal government is willing to contribute, it’s clear the Region of Waterloo can’t afford the light rail rapid transit proposal. The remaining $235 million is too much for us to carry. LRT is dead.
But we still need better transit. The question is, what’s the next plan?
The obvious choice is the much cheaper — but still enormously expensive — bus rapid transit option that the region developed. In that plan, curbs are inserted down our streets so that buses can run in dedicated lanes. This option has many of the disadvantages of light rail transit — it prevents cars from turning left except at designated intersections, it disrupts traffic, it messes up Waterloo’s core, the route is very difficult to alter, it costs hundreds of millions to build, and it puts a disproportionate amount of our resources on one route.
Compare that to the iXpress. The iXpress runs the same route (approximately) as the proposed LRT and is no less rapid, and yet it cost $9 million, including buses. We could run multiple iXpress routes. Added to that, we could start a fleet of minibuses that run on little-used routes, and complement it with on-demand transit for the elderly and poor. We could attract casual riders by allowing cash fares. We could implement marketing programs like offering cheap family passes on weekends.
We’re the community that got designated the world’s most intelligent. Let’s stop chasing last year’s failed trends and start getting smart about transit. That means targeting people who need transit and giving them the best service we can, while targeting people who might use transit and finding ways to entice them to it.
Ruth Haworth
Waterloo
Don't miss the bus on smarter transit plan, by George Burrett
- September 8, 2010
- Cambridge Times
Cambridge can breathe easier now that the “light rail plan” has run out of both money and any logical justification in the face of current transportation needs.
Both federal and provincial funding offers came up many tens of millions of dollars short of making it affordable and a Toronto study comparing the two modes of transportation has come down entirely in favour of buses.
The Martin Prosperity Institute at the University of Toronto’s Rotman School of Management found clearly in favour of buses. And buses that would ply between the homes of service workers and the places they work, areas that the Toronto study labeled “transit deserts”. The higher-income residential areas of that city, where people could best afford private transportation, are currently best served by public transportation, subways and buses.
An attempt to accurately measure the burgeoning needs of workers for less expensive and rapid transit in Waterloo Region’s cities would no doubt have found much the same inconsistency and inequities. “Planning”, here, was simply based on the assumptions that – even in the wake of severe economic downturn and losses of thousands of better-paying industrial jobs – senior levels of government would rush to garner votes and pay the tab.
It is to be hoped that transportation planners and politicians hereabouts do not miss the bus on the several hundred million dollars available now to begin building a public transportation system that would meet the needs of all in a more fragile future.
George Burrett
Cambridge
Light rail funding leaves us out
- September 2, 2011
- Cambridge Times
With Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s announcement of transit funding for Waterloo Region, another piece has been added to the puzzle.
Harper was in Kitchener yesterday to announce that the federal government will provide one-third of eligible costs, up to $265 million, to support the construction of the region's rapid transit project.
With federal funding and a provincial commitment of $300 million, the region can take the next step with regards to design and cost.
While regional chair Ken Seiling was pleased with the announcement, he failed to realize a third of the region is being left out of the plan.
It’s a shame that Seiling and project officials don’t recognize the importance of Cambridge in the mix.
From the start, Cambridge has been a passenger offered nothing more than “adapted bus rapid transit” instead of light rail.
If the region is going to take the big step of LRT for Waterloo Region – something which is still receiving mixed reviews – make it a system for all the people and not just Kitchener-Waterloo.
Cambridge is just as deserving.
Start with better bus service, by Eleanor Grant
- August 23, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: It’s forward thinking — Aug. 18, One big transit plan — Aug. 18
I was interested to read in these two letters that the region’s proposed light rail transit system includes an upgrading of the bus service across Kitchener and Waterloo which would feed into the rail service along the King Street corridor.
This is obviously essential. But what will happen if money runs short and part of the plan has to be scrapped or delayed? Is it the bus service that will suffer?
I would like to suggest that, as an act of good faith, the region begin acting now to make some very necessary improvements to our bus service. No part of our cities should be unserviced on Sundays and holidays. It’s hard to believe this is still happening.
The i-Express bus route should include a stop at the Victoria and Weber train station. This can easily be added immediately, and should have been done from the beginning. There’s no excuse for a city our size having no satisfactory transit connection to the train station.
As well, two or three east-west express buses — say on Highland Road, Ottawa Street and University Avenue — should be introduced as soon as possible without waiting for light rail.
A good bus grid must be in place before a light rail system makes any sense. If light rail is built first while neglecting bus service, it will indeed be a white elephant.
Give us better bus service, as the first priority. Then the public will be more inclined to support light rail at a future date.
Eleanor Grant
Waterloo
A travel disrupter, by Jan Narveson
- August 19, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Wiser ways to spend — Aug. 14
One must certainly agree with Ernst Friedel that there are wiser ways to spend our money than on the proposed light rail transit system, but we should not agree that if the billion plus spent on G20 “security” had instead gone for LRT, “we would have had something positive . . .”
What people have to realize is that we’d have something negative. Everything about the plan shows that it will be a massive disruption of travel in this community for almost everyone. A previous letter-writer hits the mark when he says that the only thing it has going for it is that “it’s cool.” But it’s only cool to utopian city planners. For us ordinary people in the community, the scheme is a nightmare. If someone gave it to us for free, we’d do better to refuse.
Jan Narveson
Waterloo
A burden on taxpayers, by Bryan White
- August 17, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
My family and I are in the lower middle income demographic and members of the silent majority who feel we are being overtaxed and under-represented by politicians.
Our household has already received pamphlets from candidates running in the fall municipal elections, and I think it would be a good idea for candidates to clearly tell us where they stand on the light rail transit project so that those in favour can be voted out of office before us enslaved taxpayers take another hit below the belt when we have bills and mortgages to pay and kids to put through school with our already stretched incomes.
I am not a politician, developer, urban planner, engineering consultant, tech guru, leader of industry or any of the other proponents of light rail who will never ride the system except to cut the ribbon at an opening ceremony but a person of common sense. Kitchener-Waterloo has a small urban core with a huge suburban population that will never use the system. Light rail will not get people out of their cars, save the environment or ease traffic congestion. Light rail will be a burden on the taxpayer, chew up the urban environment and get in the way of the cars that suburban subdivision dwellers need to drive because our cities have been built for them since the Model T came out.
Although light rail transit is a regional project, it should be an election issue with candidates running for all levels of government clearly declaring their position.
Bryan White
Kitchener
A backward move, by Debbie Ditzend
- August 12, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Put it on the ballot — Aug. 9
I am in total agreement with this letter writer’s opinion regarding light rail transit. I also remember the streetcars in downtown Kitchener. I thought forward thinking meant moving forward, not backward.
I, for sure, will not benefit from the light rail system. I don’t live anywhere near downtown. How is it going to service me? If bus routes could improve into the subdivisions, especially the new ones, then I would consider busing to destinations for general shopping. I only live five minutes by car from work, so in nice weather I do bike to work.
I also would like to see the question about light rail put on the ballot in the next election. Are there figures out there showing the percentage of people who would benefit from the light rail? Who is the region trying to impress? Is it perhaps the tech companies that are coming to Waterloo?
If the light rail is approved, I and others may just decide to move to one of the towns that surround us. That sure would be fewer taxes to pay. It’s something to think about.
Debbie Ditzend
Kitchener
Not good for Cambridge, by Leslie Wells
- August 11, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Time for Ottawa to ante up — July 28
I had to smile as I read this editorial. The reason for my mirth is quite simple: The Record is asking Gary Goodyear, the MP for Cambridge, to “show us the money” for a project that will, please excuse the term, screw Cambridge over.
The editorial is written in a way that suggests that the editorial board is appealing for money on behalf of all the citizens of the region. As a citizen of the region, I couldn’t care less about the proposed light rail transit system. I doubt that we will ever see the trains in Cambridge or the townships but we will, nevertheless, be expected to pay for them.
I find it hard to believe that anyone in their right mind should expect the government in Queen’s Park or Ottawa to ante up given the huge deficits that they are struggling with.
The editorial was correct when it suggested that light rail could become an onerous burden for local taxpayers. There will be a shortfall of money from the feds and Ontario governments and the local taxpayers will be expected to pick up the rest of the bill.
Light rail is not the vital transportation project that the Record suggests. It is little more than a real estate project for Kitchener. In closing, if Goodyear can’t come up with funds for daycare but can come up with money for light rail, he will not get my vote in the next election.
Leslie Wells
Cambridge
Put it on the ballot, by Rick Bilicky
- August 09, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I am against the proposed light transit system for Waterloo Region.
When I was a kid going to the show in Kitchener with my parents there was an electric streetcar that went from the senior centre up King Street to Victoria Street. Back then, Kitchener council decided to take it out because it wasn’t servicing the new residential areas that were being built. The city went with buses because of the cost. Now the region wants to go back again. What’s wrong with this picture?
Now that provincial and federal funding isn’t going to pay for all of this, I suggest we put the question on the ballot in the next election for regional representatives and see if taxpayers want to fund this or scrap the idea.
Rick Bilicky
Cambridge
Nothing in its favour, by Edmund Kaufman
- August 05, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
It is time supposedly intelligent politicians put to rest their thinking about a proposed electric rail line. There is not a positive thing in its favour. We just ripped up our streetcar line.
The original cost is only the beginning of the expense. Think of the installation and maintenance of the wires and rails, the storage and maintenance of the cars, and the expense of operation for a line that starts and goes nowhere. There must be a lot of riders.
We will end up with a much bigger white elephant than the Kitchener market.
Why would Cambridge and the other townships even think of wanting to help pay for this?
Edmund Kaufman
Kitchener
Transit track in wrong direction, by Mark Sommer
- August 3, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: The light rail plan
As a frequent Grand River Transit rider, I would love to support the light rail transit plan for this region, but I have yet to hear convincing arguments in its favour. We hear that “it’s not about ridership; it’s about development” but surely those two go together to a significant degree, i.e., many businesses that spring up along an underused transit line will struggle and fail.
The environmental argument is empty when the operational commitment of local governments is to accommodate ever more private motor vehicles. If there’s to be ongoing, massive spending on upgrading city streets and expressways, then let’s maximize their use: develop small-scale, highly flexible transit options that pollute less than the buses we have now. Give transit vehicles and bicycles designated lanes when and where they make sense.
The argument that “we won’t have to pay for it all” is embarrassing, at best. The taxpayers of Canada will pay for it, no matter whose budgets it comes out of — and the province and feds won’t chip in 40 years from now when King Street is dug up to remove the rails.
The only honest arguments I’ve heard are variations on the theme that light rail rapid transit will make us look so cool. This might be worth considering if we were all teenagers with way too much spending money.
Mark Sommer
Kitchener
The wrong track, by Kevin Smith
- July 30, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: The light rail debate
Let’s be realistic. Waterloo Region does not need, nor is its population big enough to warrant, light rail transit.
In my opinion light rail transit does not stand for what the region’s tax and fee distributors are really thinking. What their thinking of the LRT really shows is Lost Reality Track.
Kevin Smith
Kitchener
Region doesn’t need rail link, by Edith Blanchette
- July 29, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light rail supporters call on feds to pony up — July 17
So Tim Mollison, a spokesperson for Tri-Cities Transport Group, wants us to lobby our MPs for federal commitment of $300 million to build a train to go from one mall in Waterloo to a mall in Kitchener and a bus to Cambridge. Well, the only lobby he will get from me is to not fund this wasteful spending. The solution I would support is a better bus system for all three cities. I will not support Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff and his rapid transit.
You can have environmentally friendly buses that can go anywhere in the city. Why should taxpayers in Cambridge be footing this bill when all we get is a bus? There already is a bus from Cambridge to Kitchener. Who is going to ride this train from mall to mall? Most people who shop are not going to go by rapid transit because they love convenience and their autos. I cannot imagine going grocery shopping and hopping on a train loaded with bags. Is everyone in Waterloo and Kitchener going to take up residence along this rail line? A bus travels where needed.
Is Cambridge in Waterloo Region only to contribute our hard-earned dollars to fund some pipe dreams of Kitchener and Waterloo? We have needed a solution to traffic problems with trains here for decades. It should be Cambridge’s turn to have funding.
Edith Blanchette
Cambridge
Rail plan won’t work, by Barbara da Silva
- July 27, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Rapid transit will speed tax hikes — July 17
I agree with many of Jeff Outhit’s well-articulated points concerning the light rail transit system that has been purposed.
As a candidate for regional council, I strongly oppose the light rail transit proposal. The estimated $512-million cost for senior governments does not include overruns, maintenance and operation costs. There is no guarantee the region will receive matching funds from the feds as hinted at by the minister in charge. That will leave the taxpayers on the hook for the difference.
The LRT current design, including raised tracks and timed doors will make the system difficult for people with limited mobility to use. This goes against the Ontarians with Disabilities Act (Bill 118). Losing the ability to interact with the driver will create a potentially dangerous situation as the passenger may not be able to sit before the train leaves.
Rapid transit buses would meet the needs of this community. Expansion plus a refocus on employment facilitation will make the system more efficient and still meet the required environmental standards, for far less the cost than a light rail transit system.
If elected I guarantee this is one staff initiative I will definitely vote against.
Barbara da Silva
Kitchener
Opt for buses, by John Mladek
- July 23, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light rail supporters call on feds to pony up — July 17
Tim Mollison, representing some grassroots organization, wants us to lobby our MPs for the federal government to commit $300 million to build their pipe dream and “wow factor” light-rail mini train with all that awesome length of about 15 kilometres and running through the middle of our two cities. They, and their regional and local politician friends, hope that for measly $800 million — which is probably wishful thinking anyway — it will bring people, businesses and all other great things that will make the area alongside of the railway track vibrant, just like in the old west. Providing that all those houses and whatever will be in the way of this marvel will be demolished first and something new, again, vibrant just like Our Kitchener Market, will be built.
It does not seem to matter that the main reason for any transit, in my opinion, is to move people fast and efficient. There have been three studies showing that efficiently run buses are much better and cheaper choice. Therefore I would respectfully suggest that people with grassroots common sense and logic lobby our MPs for the federal government to do their due diligence and to pony up only enough money for us to go with the buses. But we also have to remember that so far the electric train is a dream only and not reality. After all, we will have elections in fall.
John Mladek
Kitchener
Seek transit alternatives, by Tom Fitzsimmons
- July 17, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: It’s a visionary plan — July 13
Paul Wagner’s criticism of Peter Shawn Taylor’s column opposing the light rail transit system is a bit unfair.
Wagner is obviously a strong supporter of light rail transit with its high price tag, however, anyone who offers constructive criticism or speaks plainly about the realities of higher taxes required to support the ongoing expenses is labelled as a critic looking for cheaper, short-term solutions to difficult problems.
What’s wrong with looking at cheaper solutions? Our politicians are not visionary for investigating rapid transit options — that’s one of their tasks as leaders of the region and its cities. Who will eventually pay for the new streetcars? The province didn’t break any promises with its proposed contribution; I think they gave what they thought was reasonable against the gold-plated request for funds for one set of train tracks running north/south to join three adjacent city cores. It’s no secret that filling up the Kitchener and Waterloo downtown core is at the centre of this whole proposal.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Transit plan ‘dumb’, by Hans Koster
- July 16, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light rail transit rides off into the sunset — July 8
I agree 100 per cent with this column by Peter Shawn Taylor. The proposal for the light rail transit system is the dumbest thing Waterloo regional council ever produced. First of all, there’s the cost. We all know the estimated price of $850 million at the end would be way over $1 billion with cost overruns.
This should be put on the ballot at this fall’s election, and I bet it would be rejected by a big majority.
Hans Koster
Kitchener
Far too expensive, by Jan Narveson
- July 9, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Rethink transit plans — July 7
Letter writer Ingrid Sienerth makes some good points about the Waterloo regional government’s much-touted transit plan. But when she notes that “only” $300 million will be exacted from Ontario taxpayers to support it, surely the question must be raised: Why should the people of Ontario, and then, as the planners hope, the rest of Canada pay for this white elephant?
The light rail transit plan is hideously expensive. It will continue to be even more so after it is installed (in the unhappy event that it actually is), and will disrupt automobile traffic enormously while contributing essentially nothing to the speed and efficiency of public transport hereabouts.
Those facts, well known to all by now, seem not to concern regional council or any of the local governments. One has to wonder why.
Jan Narveson
Waterloo
Rethink transit plan, by Ingrid Sienerth
- July 7, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Now that the residents of Waterloo Region know that the province will only be providing only $300 million for the rapid transit project, and the federal portion has not yet been confirmed, perhaps it’s time to rethink this whole project, conduct more studies, and have a referendum on this matter in this fall’s municipal elections.
We already have a transit system that covers the Waterloo-Kitchener-Cambridge route via many bus routes including the iXpress. Would it not make more sense simply to upgrade the existing service with more hybrid buses rather than sink ourselves into this light train money pit?
Even if we spend all of this money on a light rail system, there is no guarantee of a significant increase in public transit ridership any time soon. Current patrons would simply be boarding a light train instead of various transit buses along the corridor.
Many of the driveways along bus routes contain four cars. Residents are not going to start selling off private vehicles for the pleasure of using public transit simply because we have a light train system instead of bus service along this one route. What we need more of is public education promoting the importance of public transportation as well as studies on how best to serve the needs of our population to make taking the bus a viable option even to those who can still afford to keep several cars on the road.
Buses offer more flexibility in regards to detours and road closures due to emergencies or construction since buses are easily diverted to alternate streets. A light train would be stopped in its tracks if the track were suddenly closed.
Ingrid Sienerth
Kitchener
Improve Ixpress buses, by Robert L. Davison
- July 3, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The low-balled offer of $300 million from the provincial government to partially finance the capital costs for rapid transit, including light rail transit, in Waterloo Region ought to give pause not just to our elected leaders but also to the general public.
As with any large undertaking the projected costs will by far outstrip the original $780-million price tag and as taxpayers in this region we will be stuck with the outstanding balance — even if federal money is forthcoming.
The proper solution is to negotiate the use of provincial funding to dramatically improve existing bus service — hybrid or otherwise — and expand the number of express routes similar to the highly successful Ixpress system that could be accomplished in months not years. For instance, more express bus routes could bisect the existing Ixpress with a line running from the airport at Breslau to Victoria and Ira Needles, one connecting Erbsville to Bridgeport, yet another on Ottawa Street from Mannheim to Lackner. Similar services could serve the main transport corridors in Cambridge.
These services would run where people in these cities actually live and work, especially with the cities still being addicted to further suburban sprawl. The envisioned combination of local buses and light rail transit will simply be too slow and unwieldy to serve the needs of these cities. Calculating the projected travel time of taking a bus and the light rail transit, I could still ride my bicycle to work faster with less aggravation (even in poor weather) and with the added benefit of not expecting my neighbours across the region, province and country from picking up the tab for yet another white elephant.
Robert L. Davison
Kitchener
I’ll bet a box of donuts, by Mark Gordon
- June 16, 2010
- Waterloo Chronicle
Mark Gordon suggests that we all enjoy the summer, eat a donut and discuss rapid transit
So far it’s been pretty low key, if not downright quiet, but there is an election going in Waterloo. There are a number of issues to talk about, discuss, and perhaps even debate but few candidates really seems to want to take a stand on anything.
The prevailing political strategy seems to be to lie low, say little of anything which might antagonize potential voters and hope for the best. My guess is that the candidates each hope that we all slide quietly into the election and that they are able to garner enough of the less than 30 per cent of the population which is expected to vote.
One of the issues not being discussed is the proposed rapid transit system.
The new system will cut through the heart of the city and provide our early-to-bed, somewhat sleepy uptown with a 24 hour transit stop.
Mind you, it is still unclear as to whether rapid transit is economically feasible for this area and if demand for rapid transit will ever justify it being built.
In Waterloo, the candidates are not saying much about this massive new public expenditure.
I guess they support the proposed system. And who can fault them? After all, the team of urban planners from the region have researched, planned and constructed a model for what should be our ideal transit system.
If I differ than I must be a NIMBY — a not in my back yard kind of guy. I must be either naïve, foolish or plain not willing to see the greater good. If I differ, than I must not be seeing what I should be seeing — that government and government planners are always right
It’s been said that we live in historical times. Many years ago there was a certainty that fluoridation of the water supply was at best helpful and at worst a noninvasive addition that had no downside. The science was clear.
Now, not so much. And we are having a referendum on the issue.
Today we have the science of urban planning. This science is just as clear as the old science, which is to say not at all clear. So, let us decide. Let there be a referendum on rapid transit in Waterloo.
We would all like the region to grow. Growing is good, but everything is about timing. Is this the right time for rapid transit? Will there be enough demand? Unfortunately, no one can see the future with any certainty. Businesses large and small have no crystal ball and neither do governments. Sometimes expansion is a success and sometimes it is not.
I know I shouldn’t, but from time to time I eat donuts. I can’t go to the long-lost Krispy Kreme outlet in Kitchener because the company expanded itself into bankruptcy and that location was closed.
I really do not want the City of Waterloo to become the Krispy Kreme of Ontario cities.
Let’s debate rapid transit in this election year and let’s have a referendum on rapid transit in the next election.
I’m willing to bet a box of donuts that after a full debate Waterloo will vote “no” in a referendum on rapid transit.
Mark Gordon
Waterloo
Transit plan dubious, by Chris Woroch
- March 11, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Public transit or a free car? The choice should be obvious — March 4
Peter Shawn Taylor’s column is yet another careful analysis of why Waterloo Region’s current light rail transit proposal is devoid of logic and common sense and doomed to fail. I continue to be amazed by how few questions seem to be considered from the region’s side of things. People like Taylor articulate for many of us the outstanding concerns we the taxpayers would have about this dubious initiative.
The whole ridership issue is a fact that cannot be dismissed with an “if we build it they will come” mentality. Add to that the overwhelmingly undisputable fact that we are a car culture that will only increase as the region increases and light rail transit seems like a distant fifth or sixth at best.
Just the other day I was travelling along Fisher-Hallman and, encountering the usual inordinate amount of traffic, I wondered how in the world is light rail transit going to remedy this? And that is just one area. I can think of at least half a dozen initiatives that would definitely improve traffic and allow for a little more sanity in this region. I listen to Regional Chair Ken Seiling singing the praises of light rail and think to myself: Is that the best you can do? He is not at all intellectually compelling, his logic is porous, and his tone smacks of a little insecurity and defensiveness.
I have to admit that it makes me wonder if this whole light rail transit initiative is really more about image, ego and legacy rather than doing what is wise and fiscally responsible for the citizens of the region.
Chris Woroch
Kitchener
The obvious, stated, by Douglas Wells
- January 16, 2010
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Numbers don't add up for region's light rail transit proposal — Jan. 12
Bravo to John Shortreed for (again) stating the obvious concerning light rail transit in the Waterloo Region.
Douglas Wells
Guelph
Buy bigger buses, by Michael LeBlanc
- December 4, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Student demand for transit leaves some stranded — Dec. 1
Why doesn’t the region divert some of the millions spent on studying and planning for a potentially white elephant boondoggle of a light rail transit system and buy articulated buses for the heaviest use routes? This would increase capacity without Grand River Transit having to hire more drivers.
Michael LeBlanc
Waterloo
Buy trolley buses, by George Carter
- November 13, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light rail transit debate
I grew up in a city of trams and we loved them. In those days, few people had cars and the roads were not congested with traffic. We had buses too, and trolley buses — which were connected like trams to overhead wires carrying the electricity.
Trolley buses were preferred to trams (light transit) because they weren’t stuck on rails in the middle of the road and so could draw into the curbside to let passengers on or off. They were quieter too.
If you want more passenger space, use double-deckers — they can carry twice as many people. Otherwise these iron-wheel carriages will need to be twice as long.
Here’s all you need to do if you want trams running on rails down the main streets: widen the roads a lot and leave your cars at home.
This community could ask city planners about the source of power — coal, gas, or nuclear — and the placement of sub stations and transformers. Ask where all the money is coming from for rail and roadwork, overhead power lines, the vehicles themselves, and all the consequent maintenance costs. From the government they say, but that’s your taxes. What about private interests and investment?
Trams still run in some cities just because they are in place since grandpa’s time, but do we need to go backwards? If we are simply trying to reduce pollution by using electric power, then all we need is trolley buses — no need to tear up the roads and ride on rails. Buses are quieter too.
George Carter
Baden
Not the way it will be, by Steve Gyorffy
- October 30, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Time is right for rail transit — Oct. 27
The graphic depiction illustrating the article on light rail is deceiving. It depicts the new tracks as simply cut into the King Street pavement. That is simply not the way these systems are built. The new trains will require a much stronger base than exists on the street at present so the rail bed will probably have to be reconstructed using concrete as it is in Phoenix or under the street car tracks in Toronto.
Also missing from the depiction are the pedestrian refuges or islands that will be required for such a system. There is much more involved than simply cutting tracks into the existing pavement.
Steve Gyorffy
Kitchener
No presumptions, by Chris Woroch
- October 22, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Parade can co-exist with light rail — Oct. 13
James Bow’s response and critique of Peter Gay’s hyperbole in his Oct. 9 column - Keep The Oktoberfest Parade, Scrap The Train - is a point well taken when it comes to the “parade debate” and light rail transit. However, Bow falls into the same kind hyperbole when he makes this statement, “The LTR proposal has the support of this community . . .”
On this point I must respectfully disagree with Bow. To make such a statement is simply not true and is a misguided assumption that doesn’t take into account the facts. While there is some support for this light rail transit initiative, I would be willing to suggest that there is more opposition than support for this misguided, illogical, fiscally irresponsible initiative than there is support. And yes, I’m against it. If my statement sounds presumptuous, I base it on what I have gleaned through conversations with others, talk-show opinions, and experts in urban planning, as well as common sense.
To debate in good faith requires noting the facts and not casually dismissing them with sweeping, presumptuous statements.
Chris Woroch
Kitchener
Bus system just fine, by Bob Oberholtzer
- October 21, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Buses are great — Oct. 10
Heidi McCauley’s letter outlines how our present transit system is perfect, and with upgrades to the system as population increases is far cheaper and superior to the proposed light rail transit currently being pushed by local politicians who would rather spend a billion dollars than a million or so over the next decade to continue upgrading our present bus transit.
Our politicians think just because the provincial and federal governments will pay a majority of the costs it will be a bargain. Well, my taxes will pay these costs also, as I will have to indirectly pay my share of taxes to the other two governments. And I’m sure these two governments would share with us a smaller amount to upgrade our buses, as their money supply does not grow on trees as the local politicians would have us believe.
In Lynn Haddrall’s Oct. 10 column, Report Sends Waterloo Region a Wake-up Call, our local report card gave us only a C+ in transit.
The local grassroots organization, Taxpayers for Sensible Transit is mobilizing to have this costly, important issue put on the municipal election ballot in the fall of 2010 to say Yes or No to light rail transit (see their website at www.t4st.com/ for details). If you think RIM Park or the Kitchener Market were costly mistakes by our local politicians, wait until you get the tax bill over the next 20 years on this rail system.
Bob Oberholtzer
Waterloo
Raised rails a problem, by Ruth Haworth
- October 19, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Parade can live with light rail — Oct. 13
James Bow says that a King Street light rail transit system will not disrupt Waterloo Region’s parades. As evidence, he says that Toronto parades run under street car lines.
Toronto has street cars and it has parades, but they don’t run on the same streets. The Caribana parade is on Lakeshore Drive west of the Canadian National Exhibition, avoiding street cars. The Toronto Santa Claus parade route is Bloor to University to Queen to Yonge to Front. Except for a short jog on Queen, none of those streets have street cars.
An additional problem with the Waterloo light rail transit is that the tracks down the middle of King Street will either be raised six inches above the rest of the street or surrounded by a curb. Those raised tracks or curbs will have a huge impact on our community. They will make it impossible for Waterloo to have its busker festival or other events in the street.
Even more importantly, cars will not be allowed to cross over the raised tracks or curbs. That means that if you own a business — or drive to a business — on King Street, King will effectively be a one way street. You will not be able to turn left into or out of any driveways where the light rail transit runs. That might not be a big problem on streets such as Queen’s Boulevard that are residential, but it will be a nightmare for busy King Street businesses.
As to Bow’s request that Peter Gay debate the merits of the system in good faith, that’s exactly what the group Taxpayers for Sensible Transit (to which Gay and I both belong) is doing. We have spent a lot of time reviewing the light rail transit and have come to the informed conclusion that, as currently planned, light rail transit will cause grave problems for our community. We suggest that bus technology would be a much better option.
Ruth Haworth
Waterloo
No support here, by Trevor Bennett
- October 17, 2009
- Waterloo Chronicle © 2008 Metroland Media Group Ltd
Re: Parade can co-exist with light rail — Oct. 13
I totally disagree with the comment made by James Bow in his letter where he states: “The LRT proposal has the support of this community...”
Light rail transit does not have my support and I know many individuals who also do not support the light rail transit proposal. The majority of them have given up voicing any opposition arguments as they feel, like so many people do, that trying to buck the system is a waste of time. Election time and the polling booth is the only real opportunity to make their point. And may it be so.
I totally agree with many past writers to the Record who feel this is simply a chance by local government to grab some "big" government (tax) dollars to implement something that will see very little use by Kitchener and Waterloo residents who will not be abandoning their automobiles to board the train. Not to mention the added annual maintenance costs to taxpayers that this light rail transit will bring with it.
Every few years a new mayor and council feel they have the answers to the downtown dilemma. I can’t recall the number of times this has happened and all it does it disrupt traffic, businesses and waste major tax dollars. It would be interesting to see just how much money has been poured down the drain over the years reconstructing and reconfiguring King Street over and over again.
Forget yet another white elephant project and let an updated and versatile bus system take care of moving the people who do, in fact, ride public transit.
As for me, I’ll stick to my bicycle and automobile. And just shudder at the extravagant waste of our tax dollars, yet again.
Trevor Bennett
Kitchener
Elevate the rails, by Ernie Reiter
- October 16, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Parade can co-exist with light rail — Oct. 13
James Bow’s letter states that the Oktoberfest parade and light rail transit can co-exist. How well this can happen will really depend on the final design. My concern is not the parade, but the day-to-day issues that light rail transit has on all traffic and congestion; especially along its route.
Not that long ago, the former Kitchener Transit abandoned the trolley busses that ran down King Street due to their inflexibility and operating cost. The Record, at the time, had a story about how great an improvement it was in the downtown to see the wires come down, and how congestion will be eased on King Street.
What people seem to forget is that in the trolley era, King Street was congested because trolleys blocked other traffic. This type of congestion is continuing in Toronto even today as trolleys continue to snarl traffic in the downtown core. Yet drivers refuse to leave their cars. The proposed light rail system may even be worse in that regard since the proposal involves rail barriers to stop cross-King Street travel every time a transit car goes by.
If light rail is truly the way to go in this region, then it should be done with the foresight and planning on how to make the system beneficial not only for users, but also for the non-users of the system.
The LRT needs to be elevated off of the roadway, similar to the monorail at Walt Disney World, or the LRT in the Detroit Metro Airport. This will avoid all issues related to traffic congestion between cars and trains. This will not only serve passengers by making the system even more “rapid,” but should also make drivers in cars (and those who pay for the system through taxes without using it) happier to be able to manoeuvre their vehicles across town.
The price tag definitely will be bigger, but such a system needs to be constructed properly — otherwise, putting trolleys back down King Street would do just as well.
Ernie Reiter
Waterloo
Buses are great, by Heidi McCauley
- October 10, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: GRT versus LRT
The slogan “It’s gr-r-r-reat!” perfectly describes the service Grand River Transit provides. Bus travel is the most economical and ecological means of transportation. For $1.85 you can cruise around Waterloo Region for 90 minutes with unlimited stops until the time indicated on your transfer. Most drivers are helpful, compassionate and drive skilfully and safely. Some complain that GRT is desperate for many more buses. Although most drivers prefer hybrids, they are not a tenable solution as they are not as reliable as gas-powered buses. Although the buses are usually punctual, arrive at your stop five minutes early in case they are running too efficiently! If your bus is more than 10 minutes late, there has likely been a breakdown but this situation is rare. In my 40 years’ experience, this has occurred only twice and a functioning bus was sent within 30 minutes.
Waterloo Region does not need light rail transit. I believe that future population projections are inflated because many citizens have lost their jobs and will move to seek employment. The Golden Triangle may not be as appealing to prospective residents due to our economic struggles.
The iXpress covers the Fairview-Conestoga route quickly with few stops. Building tracks along King Street would be disruptive to the smooth circulation of cars and unfair to existing businesses. Why did the cities of Kitchener and Waterloo revitalize their downtown cores just to have much of this infrastructure disrupted when the rails are installed? The taxpayers of Cambridge will be deprived of the light rail transit even though they will also contribute to this boondoggle.
Government funds should be allocated to upgrade Grand River Transit, not introduce the money-pit of light rail transit. I hope the region pays attention to public opinion on this volatile issue and doesn’t just defer to the city planning “experts.”
Heidi McCauley
Kitchener
Keep the Oktoberfest parade, scrap the train, by Peter Gay
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
- October 09, 2009
Our beloved Oktoberfest parade is being threatened by an out-of-control train.
News that the parade may cease to exist in its present form is further evidence that the region’s $800 million light rail transit scheme is at odds with what residents of Waterloo Region really want and can afford. Most people will never take the train. But they will certainly pay for it. And the loss of the parade is just one of the costs.
The Oktoberfest parade is one of the signature events for our region and a great way to sell ourselves to tourists. But its current route down King Street is threatened by the significant changes that will be made to many important roads in the region.
King Street will become almost unrecognizable in many sections. A six-inch high curb down the middle of the road will make left-turns impossible and reduce the road to one lane of car traffic in each direction. These changes, as well as the necessary overhead power lines, will make King Street inaccessible to parade traffic. This means it must be moved elsewhere.
Parade organizers say they find Weber Street unappealing for many reasons. If so, the solution will either be a much shorter route, or something that avoids Waterloo altogether, such as Victoria Street. Regardless, the parade will never be the same. Younger generations will miss out on the thrill we have all experienced watching the floats and bands march down King Street.
The same factors that will make King Street inaccessible to the parade will also hurt local businesses located along the “main street” of Kitchener and Waterloo. This central curb will mean many businesses will find themselves on a one-way street. Street parking will also disappear.
Several business owners have told me they will be forced to shut down if light rail transit goes ahead. This includes restaurants, services and other long-standing operations. Is this fair?
Regional council claims the light rail transit project will have a minimal effect on local taxpayers. This is because the region hopes to secure the bulk of the required funding from the federal and provincial governments. But local taxpayers are smarter than that. We know the $800 million is still our tax dollars, regardless of which pocket it comes from.
In addition, the local tax base will be responsible for up to $150 million in expenses not covered by other levels of government. The inevitable cost overruns will also fall on our shoulders.
And what about the subsidies required to keep the train going? In the first year, this will be at least $11 million, or approximately $88 for a family of four living in the region.
Such subsidies will be required because ridership is not expected to cover operating costs for many years. And given what appear to be vastly inflated ridership projections for the light rail transit, it seems likely these subsidies will be larger and longer than the region predicts.
Supporters of the light rail transit note that complaining about the impact on parades, business and taxpayers misses the point. The train is supposed to make commuting a pleasure and turn our region into a modern, major metropolis.
But even the most optimistic growth projections put Waterloo Region’s population at 730,000 by 2031. While this is much larger than our current size, other cities with light rail transit have metro populations of two million or more. This includes destinations such as Phoenix, Vancouver, Los Angeles or Portland. Waterloo Region will be the smallest municipality in Canada with light rail transit.
And besides, all those other cities with light rail transit have large, central downtown employment cores to attract commuters. This is something Waterloo Region lacks. While everyone will pay for the train, most people will never use it.
There is always room to improve public transit, but an improved system of buses makes much more sense for our region than an $800 million train down King Street. Remember, for all its expense, the train will be no faster than the current iXpress bus.
The parade is much more popular than light rail transit will ever be. Keep the parade. Scrap the train.
Peter Gay is co-chair of Taxpayers for Sensible Transit, a local group opposed to light rail transit in Waterloo Region. See www.t4st.com for more information.
Costs outweigh benefits of LRT, by David Ramsay
- Sep 30, 2009
- Waterloo Chronicle © 2008 Metroland Media Group Ltd
Regarding the cost versus the benefits of the Light Rail Transit system, this is a quick analysis of those numbers.
The annual cost of amortizing a loan of $790 million, the estimated capital cost of the system, at four per cent interest over 20 years is $57.7 million or $1.154 billion. It has also been estimated an annual subsidy of $10.5 million would be required.
There will also be business losses and traffic disruption during the construction phase, and eventual repairs to overhead wiring due to ice build up, high winds etc.
It terms of benefits, according to the transit office there will be no travel-time savings. The two benefits cited by the office were reliability and the vehicles would run on tracks. Considering the whole system would be shut down during any power failure, breakdown, accident or underground service repairs it would seem the system is less reliable than the bus, which can easily be rerouted.
The above possibilities suggest the second claimed benefit, running on tracks, might be more of a disadvantage than a benefit.
Keeping the above caveats in mind, the region must decide whether the two benefits claimed for the LRT system are worth the $68.2 million annual price tag.
David Ramsay
Waterloo
Buy more buses, by M. Carl Kaufman
- August 29, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Re: Proposed light-rail line
Kitchener’s heavy industry was built up along the CNR rail tracks. The workers built houses in neighbourhoods on both sides of the tracks so that they could walk to work. Retail and commercial areas were developed eastward along King Street.
When residential development moved toward the east and west, some form of public transportation was warranted. At first, they had horse-drawn carriages with big wheels. Later, to get the wheels out of the mud, they laid steel rail lines down the street. Soon, hydro power came and the horses were replaced by electric motors and overhead wires.
The steel rails interfered with the maintenance of the underground services. When paved roads and rubber tires were introduced, the rails became obsolete. The overhead wires on the new trolley buses still made the system too inflexible. The diesel engine solved that problem.
A fast/rapid transit system needs an unimpeded/dedicated route. It is very impractical to build a ground-level system through a built-up city. The cost of an elevated or underground system is astronomical.
Downtown Kitchener and Waterloo have become congested. Suburban malls have replaced the downtown shopping areas. Rather than inflexible rail lines, a more flexible, improved bus system would be more practical.
We have to convince the provincial and federal governments that the plan is too expensive, too inflexible and wrong.
M. Carl Kaufman
Waterloo
Please, councillors, listen, by Heidi McCauley
- August 07, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I’m afraid the moniker of “most intelligent city” accorded to Waterloo is becoming increasingly more of a misnomer. I was dismayed to learn that plans are afoot to build a skating rink in the Waterloo Civic Square; Waterloo council must have had this as a hidden agenda since the cooling pipes have already been installed under the concrete slab. Is the City of Waterloo attempting to compete with Kitchener? Everyone knows how desperately Kitchener is struggling to revitalize the downtown core and provide a magnet to attract visitors and consumers, even those from Waterloo. The recent Rock the Block demonstrated that downtown Kitchener still has much to offer and I hope local merchants’ receipts benefited from the crowds.
There are too many levels of government and therefore too many bureaucrats at the public trough. How many professionals receive the perquisite of a seemingly unlimited expense account for a brief conference? In this economic climate it behooves our elected leaders to show exemplary fiscal restraint and unity to save money and develop creative strategies to stimulate the economy without an extra tax burden. All three levels of government should rally together and brainstorm ideas to optimize the potential of Kitchener, Waterloo and the region. Ramming megaprojects such as the light rail transit down the public’s throats in spite of the majority opinion voiced in The Record’s online survey opposing this initiative is not the answer and will not endear our municipal politicians to the electorate let alone create enough sustainable employment to justify the egregious cost. Councillors, please listen to our citizens for everyone’s well-being.
Heidi McCauley
Kitchener
Light rail will fail, by Chris Blundon
- July 25, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Re: Public transit plans
When something such as a light rail transit system happens in a community, it is critical to have the input from its citizens but also for this input to play a major factor in the final decision. Unfortunately Waterloo regional council didn’t take into account. Instead we are looking at a price tag that would make any bank jealous. Here are some ritical points: A light rail transit train can’t divert itself if it fails on the track; a bus, however, can be pulled and passengers can continue on their trip, via another bus. A bus can go multiple places; light rail transit can only go where the track takes it. Furthermore Grand River Transit’s iXpress does this already and to Cambridge, our neighbours. Placing a doctor on the light rail transit would make sense so more would benefit. Unfortunately I am not part of council. Let’s put the money toward our health system so we don’t have to wait six hours just to see a doctor. Anyways when this light rail transit gets approved it will become a light rail fail.
Chris Blundon
Kitchener
Get public approval, by Tom Fitzsimmons
- July 22, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
While our Waterloo regional politicians and transit planners stare into their belly buttons while they await word on funding support for light rail transit from the feds and the province, they will have time to review their alternatives if the big boys and girls don’t ante up practically all of the required $790 million. In American cities, due to the size of the planned light rail transit expenditures and the resultant impact on local taxes, the proposals are usually presented as referendum or election issues.
If they don’t gain the necessary support, they don’t proceed. Regardless of this project’s final form, our local taxpayers will pay for the new buses or streetcars. If our politicians really believe in their plan and want our support, they must take the bold step of formally asking for our approval to spend this huge amount of money. That’s how they do it in the big leagues — are local politicians ready for that??
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Rail line on wrong route, by Larry Spiegl
- July 20, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light rail transit
Q: How do Waterloo regional councillors spell "infrastructure"?
A: Light rail transit.
But what taxpayers consider infrastructure -- necessities like roads (a bad word now), sewers, and water mains (we only rely on them for life) -- "must be scaled back because of rising costs," according to a Nov. 27, 2008, Record article, Not So Fast For Sewer, Road Repairs.
Our visionaries can't meet past targets "to replace all infrastructure more than 80-years-old by 2032. But only 20 kilometres in all have been replaced -- 55 per cent below expectations."
Of course, Kitchener still "raised rates for water and sewer service (since 2004) to help pay for (what they then called) the Accelerated Infrastructure Replacement Program."
Coun. Berry Vrbanovic mused: "That burden is being put on the future generations at the back end." There's foresight for you. At least our children can ride to Conestoga Mall in style, if they live on King Street, something dear to every parent's heart.
"To achieve the original target, the city would need an additional $132 million over the next 10 years." How about hounding the feds for that funding, guys?
Light rail transit's costs have already doubled to $780 million in only five years. Does anyone not expect them to double again by the time this monstrosity is built? To please developers?
Proponents trumpet light rail transit as some new panacea -- curing everything from gridlock to asthma. The first trams began in Ireland, in 1881, and clean electric cars are literally around the corner. Also, peak hydro demands should be no problem -- with nuclear upgrades suspended last week. As for gridlock, light rail transit hogging the core will guarantee it. Daily. (Part of the plan to force us to use it.)
Our original trolleys were scrapped in 1973, for cheaper, flexible buses. Fearless light rail transit advocates note, according to Kitchener PUC's own records: ". . . 59 years after service began. Abandonment had been scheduled for December 31, however, a severe sleet storm hit . . . causing the old streetcar overhead wire to snap in three places (and) the rails filled with ice and snow, completely shutting down service."
Let that mark the end of this already once-failed experiment.
Larry Spiegl
Kitchener
Money being wasted, by Bill Gibson
- July 08, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
On Page A1 of the June 25 Waterloo Region Record there was an article headline, Region Approves Rail Plan, $720 Million.
On Page B1 of the same edition there was another article, Cambridge Hospital Cuts May Be Tough To Swallow, $3.5 Million Deficit.
I'm glad we have our priorities straight.
I still wonder if the rush to approve the light rail transit system was based on the promise of federal and provincial government funding rather than sound business practices.
With new home building mostly taking place on the west and northwest side of Waterloo and the northeast and southeast of Kitchener, I still have a problem seeing the LRT bringing people to the uptown and downtown areas. Also, what businesses are there along this route that will attract the people to the cores or where will new businesses locate along this already congested route? Where will these businesses be located in the current cities?
The citizens of Waterloo remember well and are still paying for the RIM Park fiasco, and Kitchener's are still questioning their local government over the centre block and the former Goodrich site.
Let's stop and think this over again. We could be paying for this for a long time.
Bill Gibson
Waterloo
It's not all that rapid, by Pat Kinsella
- July 07, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light Rail Transit
The current debate about our region spending $790 million on a "rapid" transit system is alarming. The fact is that there is nothing "rapid" about an electric tram. Have you ever been on The Rocket in Toronto? It stops at every light, and at all the bus stops on its route. It takes forever just to go a few blocks.
And while Toronto has the downtown population for it, Kitchener doesn't. As an east ward resident, I applaud downtown renewal. I think this money would be better spent giving new central Kitchener residents a break on their city taxes.
The real issue here is what's affordable and also good for the environment. Go ahead and buy a fleet of hybrid buses. Stop treating Cambridge as our poor cousin. The politicians who support this project are being short-sighted and spending a lot of local taxpayers' money.
It's possible that the region's share of the project could cost $150 million. This is simply money we don't have and it is definitely not worth the investment.
Let's put our foot on the brakes with this white elephant and have common sense prevail.
Pat Kinsella
Kitchener
Express your concerns, by Norman Knutson
- July 04, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Democracy Is More Than Counting Ballots In A Referendum -- June 29
Regarding Kate Daley's column on the meaning of democracy, with particular reference to the light rail transit issue, I believe that the regional taxpayers who will ultimately bear the cost of any transit plan have every right to express their concerns by any reasonable means at their disposal.
This is especially true when we have been presented with a scheme that can potentially have a very dramatic impact on our taxes for many years to come.
Waterloo regional council has just approved a transit plan which is virtually guaranteed to substantially increase all residential and business taxes in return for some very dubious benefits. You owe it to yourself to find out the facts about the proposed transit plan.
The one point I do agree with Daley on is that we as citizens need to become more engaged in public discourse.
Norman Knutson
Kitchener
Buses are speedy, by Alex McQuire
- July 03, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I can offer a splendid adjustment to the Kitchener-Waterloo light rail transit plan, one that can save millions of dollars -- keep the existing Cambridge-to-Fairview Park mall bus service.
I drive the speed limit and the current buses whip by me. Obviously, the buses are fast enough.
Alex McQuire
Cambridge
Rail plan is flawed, by Isobel Taylor
- June 24, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Kitchener Likely To Keep Sprawling Until 2031 -- May 12
The powers that be seem fixated on a vision of the region that encompasses light rail transit on a fixed route. Based on reports in The Record, much of the impetus seems based on the current availability of funding.
This is no reason to steamroll ahead with an unrealistic decision.
The May 12 Record discussed a consultant's report which concluded that, by 2031, Kitchener will have added approximately 40,000 households, 35,000 of which will be in the suburbs. I doubt Waterloo's distribution will be much different. Using a fixed location transit option will merely shift current bus riders to rail. If there isn't a drastic change in bus routes to suburbia, ridership on the rail line will be limited.
Given the incredible technological knowledge and capabilities in this area, surely an innovative solution could be developed which deals with the reality that the majority of people in this community live in areas relatively remote from the core. For instance, we could have a fleet of smaller, van-size buses, programmed to pick up and drop off people close to where they live, that could be ordered via the Internet for daily or occasional use, costing more than a current bus ride but less than a taxi. These small buses could link with mainline bus routes. In this way, people could bus in from the suburbs, use the mainline, and use the smaller buses to reach their work or other destinations.
Isobel Taylor
Waterloo
Plan is bad for Waterloo, by Ruth Haworth
- Jun 24, 2009
- Waterloo Region Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Light rail transit, as currently planned, could be a disaster for uptown Waterloo. The train is slated to go straight down King through the uptown core (William to Erb), displacing parking, inconveniencing pedestrians, and making street festivals all but impossible. The stations required for light rail are huge; a third of the sidewalk from Willis Way to William will be a station.
The light rail transit is going to turn left across our busiest uptown intersection, King and Erb, and then run against traffic on one of our busiest uptown streets, Erb between King and Caroline.
There will be two light rail tracks criss-crossing Erb and Caroline streets, making such a mess of the intersection that railway gates are planned. All this just before construction of the giant Barrel Yards development 100 metres away. Besides being a major driving route, this intersection is the connection between uptown and Waterloo Park, and is the junction of the TransCanada, Iron Horse and Laurel trails.
Also, the light rail is going to cut a swath right through the middle of Waterloo Park. Given the turning radius required by the trains, I don't see how the Adult Recreation Centre at King and Allen streets will survive. At the very least it will lose its parking.
None of the planned station locations in Waterloo is in any need of density incentives. The provincial growth targets for uptown Waterloo for the next 25 years will be met in the next five to seven years. The problem in Waterloo, if there is one, is that there may be too much development in the works.
After a lot of hard work uptown Waterloo is a great success, and the current light rail transit proposal is poised to destroy that success. Anyone who cares about uptown Waterloo should be very concerned about the region's plans for light rail transit.
There are alternatives, such as bus rapid transit that merges in with regular traffic through uptown Waterloo; or a King streetcar, similar to the trolley bus we had until the 1970s; or modifications to the light rail route that are more sensitive to the needs of Waterloo.
Ruth Haworth
Member -- Uptown Vision Committee, Waterloo City Council advisory committee
Waterloo
Buy us all a horse instead, by Paul Makulski
- June 24, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Full Speed Ahead For Rapid Transit -- June 20
This editorial and many of the letters about the debate refer to "rapid" transit, yet what the "R" in LRT actually stands for is "rail." The two-page feature article a couple of weeks ago indicated that the top speed of these electric trolleys would be 50 km/h. Factor in passenger stops and traffic lights, and the average speed will be more like 25 km/h.
The top speed of a Mennonite horse and buggy is also about 50 km/h. Perhaps we should consider investing the $790 million to buy everybody in the region a horse.
This would cost about the same, reduce our carbon footprint, and provide us with as much manure to spread around as our ego-bound regional politicians have.
Paul Makulski
Waterloo
Light rail is costly, by Kenneth Hague
- June 23, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Big Questions About Rapid Transit -- June 13
In Jeff Outhit's excellent article, I was fascinated to read that Coun. Jim Wideman, chair of the regional planning committee, believes that the proposed $790-million rail transit system -- is "not primarily a people mover; it's a way for us to attract redevelopment into the downtown areas."
That being the case, can we, the property owners who live along the proposed route, assume that each of the municipal councils have passed bylaws allowing highrise buildings and greatly increased population density? If this has been done it has been done very quietly.
In the same article Outhit wonders if "all costs for rapid transit are included?"
How about the costs to ensure that all the services below the proposed route -- water pipes, sewage pipes, electrical supply, gas supply, etc. -- are in a first-class state of repair, and will not have to be dug up for maintenance in a few years?
Just imagine if we had installed a light rail transit system along Erb Street, which is now a major construction mess.
Kenneth Hague
Waterloo
Light rail plan won't solve transit problems, by John Innanen
- June 23, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Light rail transit
Ask any well-informed public official and they will tell you that the lack of any effective east-west traffic flow in Kitchener and Waterloo is a problem that has not been dealt with for decades.
The closest Kitchener came to addressing the problem was improving Victoria Street, yet no one had the foresight or the bravery to fully expand Victoria into four lanes crosstown. So Kitchener still has a bottleneck in an otherwise promising traffic route near Belmont Avenue.
But north-south routes are crowded and dangerous, you say?
North-south road improvements are all in mothballs because the resulting traffic in the downtown area has no good east-west outlets, once the motorists are within the core. City planners already know that north-south routes don't solve east-west problems.
So the big solution to our traffic woes, and the big commercial draw is, get this, a north-south light rail transit route?
Let the light rail transit plan come to completion and we'll have worse east-west traffic patterns, with the addition of unavoidable railway level crossing delays at every east-west intersection.
No, roundabouts won't solve this problem.
I'm not against light rail transit, and the attached bling factors, but for heaven's sake, one has to look at location and practicalities first. Maybe when the east-west problems are fixed, light rail will be nice, too.
John Innanen
Kitchener
Rail scheme won't work, by John Mladek
- May 22, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
I believe the cities of Waterloo Region are too small to support a light rail transit system.
It is not flexible and as proposed it will not get people out of their cars. This is a community where people love to drive because it is comfortable and convenient.
The proposed route is basically one line from Waterloo to Kitchener with stops in between. How would people who do not live close to those stops get to them? By bus? Walking? Biking? No. If they ever want to use it they hop in their car to get there. Will they take this possibility into account and plan a parking lot at each stop?
Say, for example, a lady in the middle of our Canadian winter has to take her two small kids to a doctor. She happens to live in the Chicopee area and her doctor's office is in Waterloo.
Is she going to drive or take a taxi to Fairview Park mall, board the train, get off in Waterloo and . . . do what? Take a taxi again to get to the office?
Would anyone do that?
This notion that we will build it and they will use it reminds me of that old saying about a horse, a well and drinking.
Meanwhile, our governments are now committing piles of our money to keep General Motors and Chrysler afloat to save them from going out of business and to save jobs of those overpaid unionized workers.
To stay in business they have to sell cars, so our governments want us to buy their cars so they are once again profitable. So, on one hand they want us to buy cars and on the other hand they want us to not use those cars.
Would it be prudent for the government to have some kind of referendum on public transit, or some way to reach the people to get true feedback? We all know how those public information meetings are conducted. Politicians have already made up their minds and don't listen to people anyway.
John Mladek
Kitchener
Light-rail's heavy costs, by Chris Cox
- May 16, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Transit plans
I'm seriously upset that our Waterloo regional councillors want to spend absolutely huge sums of taxpayers' money on the light-rail transit system. I think that the public should have some say about the need for a rail system in the region.
I personally have never used public transit, and I know many people in the same boat. Why should every citizen of Kitchener be forced to have a huge tax increase for a system that many people do not even use?
Is it really that necessary for the region at this time or is it the region's way of wasting money on a system that will probably never see the system paid for from rider fees?
Chris Cox
Kitchener
Money being diverted, by Jan Narveson
- July 04, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Look Past The Price Tag -- June 24
Letter writer Jim Cyr says "...of the $790 million required to build the rapid transit system, the region is likely to pay pennies; the provincial and federal governments are expect to foot a vast majority of the bill..."
It's a poor defence of a white-elephant project that somebody else will be compelled to pay for it.
Light rail transit will cost hugely more than a decent bus system. And, as others have pointed out, all of the energy and money from us -- the taxpayers -- that has been directed toward light rail transit are really just being diverted from improving the bus system we have.
Jan Narveson
Waterloo
Lots of people haven’t heard of LRT, by Carl Kaufman
- Jun 17, 2009
- Waterloo Chronicle © 2008 Metroland Media Group Ltd
During the past three months, I have talked to a lot of people about the plans for the Light Rail Transit. I was surprised to find that over half of them had never heard of it; and that if they had, they thought it involved the GO train to Toronto!
Most of the others were very opposed to the project because they felt it was too expensive, it was too inflexible and it would not serve enough of the area.
They agreed that an improved bus system would be much better.
I was also surprised by the number who blamed the local politicians for pushing this project to make themselves look progressive.
Carl Kaufman
Waterloo
Referendum required for light rail decision, by Stan Rektor
- Jun 10, 2009
- Waterloo Chronicle © 2008 Metroland Media Group Ltd
Just as final plans and finances were being put in place for RIM Park, we as taxpayers in the City of Waterloo had a council asleep at the switch. Likewise today, with a new council (no real change except for faces and names). At the council meeting of Monday, May 24, those in attendance witnessed more of the same, a council asleep at the switch.
The region’s CAO had the entire council mesmerized and awed as he related the region’s preferred transit option –light rail transit.
Light rail is just a fancy name for rickety streetcars riding on a fixed rail route, powered by a maze of overhead electrical wires.
Oh, yes, there were a few questions asked about key stops serving the universities and technology park.
Not one councillor asked if there was an urgent and genuine need for an entirely new transit system.
No questions were asked about why the region selected the costliest system of the two, fixed rail over buses, running on the rubber railroad. No questions asked about continuing to utilize the GRT and maximizing its efficiencies by creating a dedicated express bus route along King Street, Columbia Street and University Avenue.
As local taxpayers, we are no means out of the woods when it comes to coping with and managing the debt load of RIM Park on our tax base.
And now we are told by the region that we should eat more pie in the sky and consider a pig in the poke.
It is time for a referendum. Is there anyone on Waterloo city council that knows how to spell the word and knows what it means?
Wake up people of Waterloo.
Let’s put the region to the test and call for a referendum on light rail transit.
Stan Rektor
Waterloo
Rapid-rail backers didn't prove their case, by Johanne Palser
- June 20, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Rapid Transit Fans And Critics Express Opinions -- June 11
I attended the June 10 public meeting called by regional council. Yes, there appeared to be much public support for the light-rail transit proposal as The Waterloo Region Record article reported. However, some simply offered generalizations about how they thought it would bring people and business to the downtown core without saying how this would happen with 10 bus stops being replaced with one light-rail transit stop, and nothing in place to meet the needs of people living in outlying areas.
Some stated that light-rail transit is crucial to saving our environment for our future children, as if those who are critical of the proposal are anti-environment.
They failed to demonstrate how this could be so when it has such glaring barriers to its success.
Other delegates who were in support of the proposal did go on to speak, at times passionately, about where they felt the proposal fails to meet its reurbanization objectives.
If council fails to take into account the very serious objections raised by people like John Shortreed, who is eminently qualified in light-rail transit issues, and give real consideration to more viable and cost-effective alternatives, and proceeds to approve this proposal as it exists on June 24, it will have proven to be negligent as well as irresponsible in its duty to regional taxpayers.
We shall be the ones left holding the bill for a system that doesn't work.
Johanne Palser
Waterloo
Use some imagination, by Edward Schleimer
- May 14, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Region's $790M Rapid-Transit Proposal -- May 9
I'm all for a rapid transit solution for the intercity mix of Waterloo Region, but I choke on the solution proffered by our eminent leaders.
A light rail surface situation will mean major upset due to construction, requiring broader thoroughfares to accommodate double tracks as well as independent service vehicles.
Freight and passenger needs will just increase the already existing congestion, demanding more and more real estate appropriation.
Is this a simplistic solution, or could we raise the tracks and build an overhead, magnetically propelled double-track monorail system suspended from pylons that would carry passengers for a bird's-eye view of their surroundings with -- get this -- silent running?
A light rail system will not be quiet. The region -- we the people -- will have to pay for this in the long run and at a sum off $790 million this rumbling tune better be the right answer to get people out of their cars.
Edward Schleimer
New Hamburg
Light rail is no answer, by Joe Whitney
- April 30, 2009
- Waterloo Region Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Not On Board -- April 25
I was disappointed by the response of Waterloo Regional Chair Ken Seiling to John Shortreed's critique of light-rail transit for the community. Referring to Shortreed as a lone voice was a public relations tactic intended to isolate unwanted opposition, instead of a proper defence of the region's own position.
The facts are that Shortreed is not alone, and the region has no apparent business case to support light-rail transit. Certainly, I gained an appreciation for the benefits of rapid transit while working as a consultant on the provincial Places to Grow strategy. However, I have not been convinced that light-rail transit is right for Waterloo.
If raising land values and spending tax dollars wisely are key objectives, then I offer the following suggestions to the region -- accelerate the realization of a GO Transit connection to Toronto (another element of Places to Grow that's actually reflective of Waterloo Region's reality) and invest in a more flexible, cost-effective bus rapid transit system. These are alternatives that would provide real benefits to the people and businesses in Waterloo Region.
In the absence of an evidence-based case for light-rail transit, perhaps it is time to ask the taxpayers what they want to support with their hard-earned dollars.
Joe Whitney
Waterloo
Transit misunderstood, by M. Carl Kaufman
- June 18, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Regional rail plan
During the past three months, I have talked to a lot of people about the plans for the light rail transit. I was surprised to find that over half of them had never heard of it; and if they had, they thought it involved the GO train to Toronto.
Most of the others were very opposed to the project because they felt it was too expensive, it was too inflexible, and it would not serve enough of the area.
They agreed that an improved bus system would be much better.
I was also surprised by the number who blamed the local politicians for pushing this project to make themselves look progressive.
M. Carl Kaufman
Waterloo
Light rail on wrong path, by Jay Fournier
- June 18, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: The region's transit plans
The stories about Waterloo Region's light-rail transit plan all feel disturbingly familiar.
It might be a good idea to screen the 15-year-old episode of the Simpsons' Monorail at the next transit meeting; $710 million is an astounding amount of tax money for one project in our relatively small cities.
"We" are spending tax dollars like there's no tomorrow. Amounts have become so large that it's all become too easy to abstract. Massive corporate bailouts have helped change the game -- hey, we're snookered now -- so in for a penny, may as well be in for a pound. As long as there's a deficit, it's money we don't have.
Have no lessons been learned at all?
And let's be realistic. Once inevitable construction and implementation overruns tally in, we'll have a $1-billion-plus tax albatross as our legacy. But, Shelbyville has one, so I guess we'd better get on board.
Jay Fournier
Kitchener
Hold a transit vote, by Vince Buehler
- June 06, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Let The Taxpayers Have Their Say On Proposed Public Transit System -- May 28
Record columnist Peter Shawn Taylor is 100 per cent right on. I couldn't agree more. He said what needed to be said with no equivocation.
Give the residents of Waterloo Region the chance to really have their say. The public meetings and consultations that were conducted were nothing more than well-orchestrated shams.
We deserve the right to have a full and proper referendum on the light rail transit proposal. An event of this magnitude demands nothing less.
Vince Buehler
Kitchener
Buses travelling empty, by Steven Darling
- June 05, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
How many times a day or night do I see Grand River Transit buses driving their routes in the Hespeler area of Cambridge either without passengers or with only one or two riders?
Am I mistaken, or does one of the largest parts of our regional tax levy already subsidize a chronically underutilized transit system?
Is it reasonable to expect that our tax burden will increase if the proposed light rail transit system does not lure sufficient people from the convenience, comfort, privacy and safety of their cars?
Is it possible that the overcrowding on our roads has been caused by the region allowing too rapid expansion and neglecting to build adequate infrastructure?
How can the region justify spending almost a billion dollars on expanding transit when our roads are in a deplorable state of decay and neglect?
After the federal government has announced the largest deficit in history, and the provincial government is also running in the red, should our local politicians even consider adding to this strain?
Is it too late to demand a halt to the light rail proposal and better utilize the resources that we already have?
Steven Darling
Cambridge
Ask the people, by Michelle Penta
- June 03, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Let The Taxpayers Have Their Say On Proposed Public Transit System -- May 28
Thank you for Peter Shawn Taylor's excellent column opposing the Region of Waterloo's plan to pursue a light rail transit line in Kitchener and Waterloo.
Now that citizens have woken up to the controversy, the region should do the right thing and hold a referendum on the topic.
If councillors are so sure of themselves and their vision, they should have nothing to fear. Now is the time to solicit opinion and demonstrate that the regional government is willing to listen to voters.
Michelle Penta
Kitchener
Wrong transit route, by Tom Fitzsimmons
- May 16, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Region's $790M Rapid-Transit Proposal -- May 9
Another great article by Jeff Outhit has explained more details and the "logic" behind our regional politicians pushing hard to install streetcars back on our roads by 2014.
Apparently no amount of criticism will change their minds on this costly option, including those opinions from the mayor of Cambridge and a former city of Waterloo councillor.
In a previous article, Outhit summed it up nicely by suggesting that our politicians are all on a vanity trip.
They are choosing to ignore common sense and go with the planners' vision that streetcars are "better" than buses although they don't explain how.
Buses cost about a tenth of the cost of a streetcar, they operate without tracks, therefore making them available for an infinite number of route choices, they use operators from the existing labour pool, and they can be serviced in existing facilities.
Buses can also easily serve the underused downtown spine for a much lower cost than the planners' vision and if the dreamy ridership estimates don't materialize, the buses can be used elsewhere.
Lastly, the artist's rendering of the new light-rail transit system shows a total of six lanes occupied with traffic, pedestrian and segregated train tracks.
Where in the Kitchener-Waterloo area do we have or could easily expropriate strips of land six lanes wide?
Another small but important detail that seems to be airbrushed out of the picture are the overhead wires for the new electric trains. Taxpayers, not planners, will be paying for this system. We need a much louder voice in the decision-making process.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Reject light rail transit, by Norm Knutson
- May 06, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
Re: Not On Board -- April 25
I agree with both John Shortreed and Joe Whitney in their opposition to plans for light rail transit in Waterloo Region. Its proponents have failed to make a business case, backed by sound market research, that the scheme will generate nearly enough ridership to justify its very considerable expense. Unlike the movie Field of Dreams, there is no guarantee that "if we build it, they will come."
This is not the time for hype or nebulous thinking. Rather as The Record's transportation writer, Jeff Outhit has suggested, its a time for realism.
If there are federal and provincial funds available for infrastructure development, these will have to be matched by the local taxpayer. A bus rapid transit system would be much more cost-effective, and much more in keeping with what a community of our size can afford.
Maybe 25 or 50 years from now population and economic growth will justify light rail transit. But not now.
Norm Knutson
Waterloo
How will taxpayers manage? by Richard Christy
- June 24, 2009
- Waterloo Regional Record © 2009 Torstar Corporation
The Region of Waterloo's current contributions to the transportation needs are both costly and inefficient. For example, the cost comparison for the Grand River Transit per taxpayer is significantly higher than that of the former Kitchener and Cambridge transit systems. The Record writes as if the projected costs by the region at $790 million are fixed. Government projects seldom come in on target and this mega project could be closer to $1.2 billion. How do you think taxpayers will manage this tax increase?
The Region of Waterloo is also in charge of traffic light synchronization and the inefficiencies and the pollution from idling cars is dramatic. For example, along Victoria Street from Margaret Avenue to Fountain Street there are 10 traffic lights of which eight are T-intersections. It is impossible to travel to the airport without repeatedly stopping. When was the last time you were able to travel along Fairway Road at the posted 60 km/h? The city of San Diego, population 1.2 million, has developed a computerized traffic light system that has made travelling within the city more efficient and faster than on their expressways.
I am not "frozen either by fear, inertia, and skepticism," but believe that the Region of Waterloo has not demonstrated its ability to handle effectively and efficiently the mandate it currently holds for transportation.
For me there are two bottom lines: 1) the region's disregard of the No. 1 priority for the population, a long term sustainable water supply in favour of light rail transit and 2) The Record's assumption that the critics are out of touch with the future and progress. The last major controversial project The Record endorsed in the name of progress was the destruction of Kitchener's historic City Hall and famous market for a "must have" shopping mall. The heart and civic pride of downtown was destroyed thanks to that "leap of faith."
Richard Christy, Kitchener
Region in the fast lane, by Rhea Kauffeldt
- June 17, 2009
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Re: Numbers Don't Add Up For Region's Light Rail Transit Plan -- June 11
This is an excellent column. Hopefully, the public will realize we must give careful consideration to the transit system for our region. It is the biggest and costliest decision of our history. I'm sure most people recognize the need for an improved transit system but the taxpayers must be made aware of accurate information as pointed out in Peter Shawn Taylor's column.
It is imperative that we, the public, do not rush headlong into something that could or would be a terrible disaster for generations to come.
The facts show, without doubt, that a rapid bus system is the best mode of transportation for this region. If our councillors are not willing to look at all facts, then let's put it to a vote of those who will pay for it -- not only now, but many years to come.
Rhea Kauffeldt
Waterloo
Not enough riders, by Jeff Palser
- June 19, 2009
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So, our local council is going through the charade of public participation in the debate on light-rail transit for our community. I say charade because it is transparent that the decision to proceed has pretty much already been made, so why go through this public engagement process?
It's clearly evident we have insufficient numbers of transit users to make the operation viable. Our industrial base is declining and those industries which might benefit from a transit system are too dispersed to take advantage of it. In addition, we have a reasonably well-developed arterial road system, further weakening the case for massive spending on such a scale.
Has our regional council really weighed up all the cost-benefit scenarios? Unfortunately, history is not on their side. As a resident of Waterloo I'm still paying for one of city council's previous major project decisions, RIM Park. If memory serves, costs and interest rates more than doubled from the original projections, and here we are nine years later looking at their utopian estimates on a whopping $700-million-plus scheme.
From what I've been able to read on the subject, I'd suggest the rapid bus solution is far more viable, flexible and cost efficient than a fixed track proposal.
Further, if we really want to improve our transit options for the region let's start by elimination -- the need for using that well-known parking lot called Highway 401. A GO-Train to Toronto would save thousands of auto travel miles and provide far more long term green benefits than an underutilized local transit system.
Jeff Palser, Waterloo
Light rail is a bad idea, by Mat Fortin
- June 24, 2009
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I have been a public transit user since 1972, in Montreal and Waterloo. The iXpress buses introduced a few years ago work extremely well for this region. But the light rail transit proposed is a bad idea. It's too big an idea at too high a cost in too small a region in too little time.
The artists' rendition of the future sites are a little misleading. The current electrical wires and poles have magically disappeared and the wires needed to run the electric trains are nowhere to be seen.
Since this project has all these points against it, it begs the question: why is council pushing so hard for this?
Mat Fortin
Waterloo
Not working in Toronto, by Kenneth Hague
- June 05, 2009
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Regarding Waterloo Region's proposed light rail transit system, an integral part of this project is a "dedicated right of way" for much of the route.
At a recent public information meeting we were told this would be similar to the system on St. Clair Avenue in Toronto.
Recently, I stayed with friends in Toronto who live one block north of St. Clair and a few blocks west of Yonge.
Early one morning I walked down to St. Clair to conduct an unofficial, unscientific survey of the people affected by the new public transit corridor, and in talking to transit users, nearby property owners, motorists and business owners I found a wide range of opinions as to the merits of a dedicated right of way.
However, by something like a four-to-one margin-- people truly hate the dedicated right of way.
Before implementing this unpopular system in Waterloo Region, let's try to understand why it's not working in Toronto.
As an aside, if we were to build a dedicated right of way down King Street, where would we hold our wonderful Oktoberfest parade?
Kenneth Hague
Waterloo
City must tighten belt, by Elizabeth Crocker
- May 29, 2009
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Re: $2.4M deficit forces Kitchener to cut -- May 12
Is the City of Kitchener government getting so big it's running out of control? After reading the May 12 article, I was not surprised. They are spending money like it grows on trees.
We have thousands of citizens who have lost their jobs; it brings me to tears when I see how some of these people are in distress trying to pay their taxes, hydro, mortgages, rent and food. Many of these people will never find another job because the jobs they lost are never coming back.
The City of Kitchener has to quit spending and start being frugal, distinguishing between what's necessary and what's not. We are in an economic depression, people are hurting and the city can't keep asking for more and more taxes.
Here is my short list of wasted taxpayers' dollars.
The Kitchener market -- change the name and renovate, it's still a white elephant.
Ripping up the downtown every couple of years -- what is the problem?
Buying the Sportsworld twin ice pads -- more renovations, plus costs for the upkeep forever.
Last year we had lots of rain. Why was the city sending trucks to water the trees on the boulevards?
The light-rail transit will cost us more than we are being told. Take heed and look at the costs you cannot afford.
Elizabeth Crocker
Kitchener
Light rail transit system is the wrong approach, Michael Mohr
- January 29, 2008
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Usage of the existing Waterloo Region public transit system does not justify construction of a light rail system. Enhancing a north-to-south and west-to-east express route with hydrogen or other "green" powered-buses with intersecting feeder buses will do the same job as light rail. Also, it could seamlessly connect Waterloo to Kitchener and Cambridge.
In the interim, let's get people in and out of the cities more efficiently by completing the Fairway Road extension to the airport, and by widening the Highway 8 bridge across the Grand River.
I recommend the building of new bridges, and refurbishing the old ones to increase traffic flow.
Michael Mohr
Kitchener
Who'll pay transit bill? by Tom Fitzsimmons
- January 22, 2008
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I've always been concerned about the suitability of light rail transit for Waterloo Region.
Call them whatever you want, but within city limits they are basically streetcars, and many cities use those systems as part of their transit routes. It's been suggested that Waterloo Region could be compared with Calgary, Ottawa and Portland, Ore., whose systems have been in place for years. Having seen the systems in Calgary and Ottawa, and also have read extensively about Portland's system, I see the major difference in their applications versus that proposed by our transit planners -- all of their systems move people from crowded downtown cores out to the suburbs where they live.
According to surveys, light rail transit is the most popular transport choice and now Waterloo Region transit planners are proposing to jam this system into existing corridors to connect three downtown cores -- Kitchener, Waterloo and Cambridge.
You can't argue the fact that we need rapid transit of some sort, but our planners have locked on to new shiny streetcars as some magical peoplemover that transit riders will use more so than buses -- yet they have never explained exactly how and why this will occur. A Record article from last year stated that fewer than six per cent of our population use public transit -- we're talking buses here. Assuming that perhaps one per cent use the King Street route in Kitchener and Waterloo, they are proposing to spend over $300 million so that these folks can ride a new streetcar to school, work or shopping. Add to that the fact that transit fares will never, ever cover the actual operational costs and now you have a situation where the taxpayers who never use the system will pay for its construction and operating expenses.
By its own admission, Kitchener city council has explained that road repairs and regular maintenance are millions of dollars and 10 years behind schedule. So where exactly is all this light rail transit money to come from?
Surveys taken in Ottawa have indicated that if light rail transit had been an election issue, it would not have been built. All the local city councils need to take a meaningful survey of taxpayers and ask a simple question: Would you be willing to pay five to 10 per cent increased tax levels to install and maintain a light rail transit system?
That would be a survey result worth discussing.
Tom Fitzsimmons
Kitchener
Unanswered questions, by Uwe Kretschmann
- February 23, 2009
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RE: IT'S JUST MUDSLINGING Feb. 10
Just like letter-writer John Hagey, I would also appreciate seeing an end to the mudslinging on the municipal reform issue.
But more important, I would like to see some serious responses in regard to the multitude of failures we have seen in other regional governments, as outlined by many letter writers and, of course, the mayor of Cambridge.
Allow me to add my questions to the many unanswered questions raised over the past two years.
The region spends about $80 million on a public transit system which is used, at best, by about 10 per cent of the region's population. Despite such a massive expenditure on a dismally underused transit system, the region is planning to spend another $350 million or more on a light rail transit system.
As well, as recently reported, of the 10 worst polluters in the region, two are waste water treatment facilities that are owned and operated by the region.
The region participates in downtown revitalization, although they don't own any downtowns. They build a sub-campus to McMaster University to train doctors and build a pharmacy college, both in downtown Kitchener, which clearly ought to be a provincial responsibility.
The region spends millions on cultural, recreational and social programs, which are outside its direct sphere of responsibility.
The region is $125 million in debt as of 2008.
The administration costs and the tax increases are outrageous and rival no member municipality in the region.
So why would the citizens of Cambridge want to become more deeply involved in what is already an ineffective, irresponsible and overstaffed regional government.
Uwe Kretschmann
Cambridge
Potential for chaos, by Ted Heasell
- January 30, 2009
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Re: Rapid Transit Debate Warrants Scrutiny -- Jan. 10
I agree with Jeff Outhit's comments on the proposals for a north-south light rail transit service. I attended one of the earlier public presentations and decided it was biased -- intended, perhaps, to convince the public (or more likely the councillors) that it would be a wonderful addition to the local transport network.
If that light rail transit journey, from end-to-end, took about 45 minutes, and if a potential passenger was willing to wait about 15 minutes for a train, there would be about three trains heading north and another three heading south at any time. With six trains in the system, every east-west route in Kitchener and Waterloo would be interrupted by a train every seven minutes.
Recalling a similar situation in Cambridge, involving a less frequently used rail crossing, I would anticipate chaos.
A "big-city" image seems to have convinced our planners that we need such a system. But such a system would be no improvement on a dedicated bus system over the same route -- and no one would argue that that was of any great potential benefit. Besides, it's far less romantic.
Ted Heasell
Waterloo
Rail project is risky, by John Shortreed
- January 10, 2008
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Regarding the Jan. 9 editorial, Take The Train To This Region's Future, your editorial is correct "if the region wants to build a transit system for tomorrow it will buy new roads and buses. But if the region wants to build a community for the next generation . . . it will tie itself together with steel rails and sleek, fast electric trains."
This is the clearest statement I have seen that the light rail transit system has nothing to do with public rapid transit in Waterloo Region and is, in fact, not the best solution for better transit for the future. This is supported by the original phase one analysis of the viability of the light rail transit, which identified a much better public transit solution -- a bus rapid transit system.
The risk is: What if development doesn't happen? Look at the 45-year history of Toronto's University Avenue subway, opened in 1963. From 1969 to 1978 it was closed at 9:45 p.m. for lack of passengers. You can go today to Lawrence or Eglinton stations or other non-downtown stations and look in vain for the high-rise office buildings and condos attracted by the stations to support the future high density lifestyle envisaged by the region's light rail transit plan.
If it didn't happen in Toronto, with 300,000 downtown employees, why should it happen in Waterloo where the biggest employment centre is less than 20,000 employees and unlike most large cities in Canada today there is no construction boom necessary to get to the threshold of some 50,000 downtown employees by 2035?
It's surprising to me that any taxpayer from Cambridge would support light rail transit since a quick look at Edmonton, with some 60,000 downtown employees would make it clear that the south route to Cambridge will not be built in the next 50 to 100 years.
Again, thanks for so clearly pointing out that light rail transit has nothing to do with public rapid transit, which can much better be served in other much cheaper and wildly more successful ways.
To see how wildly successful that might be look at Boulder, Colorado, which increased transit use by 400 per cent from levels similar to those in Waterloo Region, and increasde them to levels found in Ottawa, which has a bus rapid transit system.
John Shortreed
Waterloo
Transit project costly, by Tracey Sinclair
- December 09, 2008
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Re: Local Leaders Can't Ignore Global Crisis -- Nov. 20
Instead of being concerned about the cost of adding four more politicians to regional council, the residents of Waterloo Region should be more concerned about the price tag for the proposed light-rail transit line. I think the cost could go as high as $1 billion for the three phases.
Based on our population of 500,000 people, the cost of adding four more councillors would be about 50 cents per person. The cost of building a light-rail transit line would be approximately $2,000 per person in federal, provincial and municipal taxes.
Plus, there will be annual operating expenses that are yet to be determined. Does the Waterloo Region Record still support light rail transit in such difficult economic times?
Tracey Sinclair
Kitchener
Transit plan too costly, by Klaus Biemann
- September 25, 2008
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The concept of utilizing rail as a mode of rapid transit is plausible in large metropolitan areas like Toronto or Vancouver. However, I believe the tri-cities are simply too small for a light rail transit system to operate efficiently.
Further, the projected $500 million startup costs to run a rail line from the north end of Waterloo to the east end of Kitchener is simply too expensive and completely out of touch with reality. Although this startup cost will largely be subsidized by Queen's Park and the feds, the cost of maintaining such an expensive system will fall on the backs of regional taxpayers in all subsequent years.
The high cost of running light rail transit would, I believe, necessitate considerably higher transit budgets than the conventional express buses. The $500 million would go a long way if applied toward I-xpress, and an infusion of that amount of money would give the tricities a tremendous head start with the expansion of express technology and infrastructure.
Ignoring a costly light rail transit system with its inflexible rail line and focusing instead on expanding our existing bus infrastructure will more than meet the requirements of an increasingly mobile urban population.
Klaus Biemann
Kitchener
